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Offline SurfCoach Brent

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The Shortboard Pop-up explained
« on: January 17, 2014, 12:50:22 PM »
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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 01:36:13 PM »
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  • am i completely retarded? i've never seen nor done the sort of climbing up onto the board thing in the video. both of my feet land virtually at the same time. do people seriously do this?

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 01:42:56 PM »
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  • Ditto..never seen or done this..  ???

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 01:46:49 PM »
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  • I can say up until a few years ago, I never realized I got up this way either, but try this...lie on your board with your feet off the back, and try to pop up without pushing off your toes (because they will be in the water) and without using your knees

    just wanted to share, because as an instructor with 12 years experience, I've found this has helped numerous people transition to shorter boards

    if your pop up works, dont change it!

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 01:50:40 PM »
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  • well, most of my favorite boards are a good 4-5 inches shorter than i am, so i'm definitely not pushing up off my toes. but i've honestly never seen this before. actually, i take that back. i see little, little kids do it. is it just me?

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 03:26:15 PM »
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  • As someone who holds the undisputed world title for poor popup technique, I'm not going to dismiss anything. I will look, read, and try anything that gets my back foot in the proper place on the tailpad. It's worth a shot, what do I have to lose?


    Honestly, though, I really only see a potential use of this in my own surfing on smaller days. On larger, more critical waves my popup has a habit of taking care of itself.


    And then there's the waves where this isn't appropriate because being more centered on the board and being in front of the tailpad is desirable, like in this wave of mine the other day (in my dreams, where I surf like Shaun Tomson  ::) )


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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 03:33:34 PM »
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  • am i completely retarded? i've never seen nor done the sort of climbing up onto the board thing in the video. both of my feet land virtually at the same time. do people seriously do this?
    No
    "get your f**cking facts straight and quit being an idiot"
     
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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 11:33:25 AM »
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  • I don't get it but that might work for others.

    Just my opinion, but on a longboard you actually pop up because you can catch the wave earlier and the board is staying in the same plane while you lift your body up and get your feet under you. 

    On a shortboard, you get in later/steeper and get to your feet as the board drops down and away from you.  Not really lifting up, just keep your body in the same place and getting your feet under you and on top of the board. 

    Maybe that made some sense but do whatever works for you.  Once you've been doing it for a while, it just happens and you don't know how to explain it.  When I shortboard I pay attention to my foot placement (especially back foot) when I pop up.  Longboarding, who cares.  You move around enough once your up the starting point doesn't matter.   
    « Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 11:42:45 AM by NJ Longboarder »

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 12:57:59 PM »
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  • This is one more instance of teaching that it's ok to have a multistage, crawling to your feet pop-up.
    I don't see this as being helpful to anyone, since it is inevitable {on a shortboard at least} that one will surf conditions that require a clean, explosive, one move popup, into near perfect foot position. Any hitch in the process just slows things down.   
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 03:56:36 PM »
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  • well, most of my favorite boards are a good 4-5 inches shorter than i am, so i'm definitely not pushing up off my toes. but i've honestly never seen this before. actually, i take that back. i see little, little kids do it. is it just me?


    I've definitely seen plenty of this. Usually from folks who went to surf schools. I had an argument with a friend about the the Longboard pop-up versus the shortboard pop-up. She was taught the "longboard  pop-up" and my assertion is that isn't even a good "pop-up" for a longboard, since if you don't get the long roll in, and have to drop late on an angle, you're screwed.
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 04:10:26 PM »
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  • that's not coaching - coaching (to me) implies the player already knows the game.  that's selling how to get a novice to their feet by the end of the lesson bell.  The pop-up should be fluid with the front knee sliding through like Brent's but without the back foot on the shortboard.  and Brent probably knows that already but the average non-surfing spaz can't accomplish that move by the end of the paid lesson so he teaches that move to ensure no one asks for their money back.  A better way to teach it to a novice is to hang the tail end of the shortboard (and legs behind) unsupported off the end of the bed - but even that takes more time than your average surf school sells and also requires ocean time (on an actual wave) to get right. Its probably best just to tell a novice that surfing sucks don't try it - if they really want to surf - they will find a way on their own..

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 01:19:31 AM »
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  • I need to place my yoga toes on the kick pad to pop up... who knew? How the heck have I even been getting to my feet all these years without a kick pad?!?!?!?
    BTW mega huge congrats to Megan for making her transition to shortboards ::)


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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 02:53:44 PM »
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  • Deleted because of how god damn embarrassing this thread is
    « Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 01:25:11 AM by Smiley's people »
    ‘closed mouth don’t catch any foot.’

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 12:41:33 AM »
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  • next time i opened up you tube after watching the above, this popped up:


    Surfing Lessons - The Cork, aka The Paddle Boost


    So many layers of weirdness going on here, I need Hydroglide to tell me what I think about this

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    Re: The Shortboard Pop-up explained
    « Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 08:04:53 AM »
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  • Anything on "the turn and burn"?  :)
    it's 6AM, have you seen a donkey?