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Offline The Lone Surfer

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so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
« on: October 12, 2005, 09:59:36 AM »
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  • I'm in trouble. i can't duck dive anything bigger than 6'5".

    happy

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 10:04:03 AM »
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  • move your hands up closer to the nose and get your weight up there when you push down. i've noticed i have to be really organized with my movements and very very focused when i duck dive a bigger board in bigger waves. its so hard but when it works its awesome.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:14:02 AM »
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  • use your foot rather than your knee to push the tail down, make sure you pull the board back to your body at the end of the sequence

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 10:18:21 AM »
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  • Thanks. I do use my foot. i usually ride small boards so i've taken it all for granted. I have bad memories of trying to duck anything even remotely buoyant. This may sound strange, but does it take longer to duck a bigger board? like do i have to put my weight over the front for a couple of seconds before it will start to sink?


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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 10:23:09 AM »
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  • its better to learn to duck dive on a smaller board. i tried it on my 6'8" and could never do it. then RD taught me on a 6'1" with a super pointy nose and it all made sense. so then i could take that knowledge back to the bigger board.

    it does take longer with a big board, or maybe its just that you have to start sooner, b/c it isn't just that push and go. its more paddle paddle oh brown trout paddle get body weight forward push hard kick through and dont pull board to chest too soon.

    you can do it!

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 10:28:56 AM »
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  • I don't know if I would follow my own advice  but this is what I try to do mentally and I can duck dive a 7-6 funfish.

    Move your wieght forward to intiate the dive. Get your ass in the air and lift your other foot up high when your pusshing the nose under.
    Then kick the tail under you.
    Push the board foward with your arms
    When your ready to surface pull the board close to you chest.

    I don't know if this realy works but I use my head when I duck dive. I put my head down to start the dive and then I pick it up to finnish the dive. I find I have a tendancy to leave my head up and thats when my duck dives don't go well.
    Trust in the board.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 10:37:18 AM »
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  • thanks. that is pretty amazing that you can duck-dive that board.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #7 on: October 12, 2005, 10:39:24 AM »
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  • I read a surftip that suggested twisting larger boards with wider noses a little so there isn't as much resistance when you push it down.  This works for me on my 6'10", although I don't always remember to do it.

    Also, I got better at diving that board by practicing in flat water between sets and by diving under swells that I could have normally just sat over.  If you can get all the way underwater without a wave, then diving a wave becomes easier.  Plus, when you go b ack to the small board its *super* easy.
    « Last Edit: October 12, 2005, 10:42:35 AM by sir_grind »

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #8 on: October 12, 2005, 10:46:23 AM »
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    I put my head down to start the dive and then I pick it up to finnish the dive.

    That sounds pretty unsafe to me. I never put my head down to a breaking wave. If the lip of a wave can break Jake's Robert August Longboard, what do you think it will do to your scrawny neck? Bull your neck like Bo Jackson running over Brian Bosworth.

    Always keep your neck tucked like a football player taking a hit when duck diving, and as you kick through with your back foot (with the other leg kept straight, pop your hips and imagine that you are making a perfect tackle. Remember, as with all things athletic, where the head goes, the body follows.

    Paddling to get momentum helps (timing is key).
    Don't half-ass it. Push your board as deep as possible, and kick through.
    So heavy you can't even pick it up.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #9 on: October 12, 2005, 11:06:44 AM »
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  • thanks for all the great responses. I've always been one of these guys that thought you didn't really need a bigger wave board on LI. will i be proven wrong?

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #10 on: October 12, 2005, 11:26:29 AM »
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  • I watched guys duck dive long boards. I"m still hopeless.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 12:05:29 PM »
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    I put my head down to start the dive and then I pick it up to finnish the dive.

    That sounds pretty unsafe to me. I never put my head down to a breaking wave. If the lip of a wave can break Jake's Robert August Longboard, what do you think it will do to your scrawny neck? Bull your neck like Bo Jackson running over Brian Bosworth.

    Always keep your neck tucked like a football player taking a hit when duck diving, and as you kick through with your back foot (with the other leg kept straight, pop your hips and imagine that you are making a perfect tackle. Remember, as with all things athletic, where the head goes, the body follows.

    I don't put chin to  my chest I just don't look up at the wave while I'm trying to go under it.
    Trust in the board.

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #12 on: October 12, 2005, 03:20:53 PM »
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  • i am the duckdive master... i duck everything from my 6-0 fish  to my 9-8 hobie

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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #13 on: October 12, 2005, 03:37:55 PM »
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  • i am so glad someone finally answered this question! i thought i was going to have to drown out there because i'd messed up too many duckdives in a row, before anyone actually shared their knowledge...
    thanks for the great tips, especially the technical stuff from happy
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    Re: so who can teach me how to duck dive in 24 hours?
    « Reply #14 on: October 12, 2005, 04:23:10 PM »
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  • I'm a duck diving-with-your-foot-on-the-tail guy....I really get it  under there...I only do it with my knee if I feellazy that day.. I just got a 6'3 rounded pin....uh oh whatver shall I do...hahaha ;D