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Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
« on: September 02, 2005, 05:19:36 AM »
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  • I kick on takeoff.  I feel like I get an extra little burst of speed, although it seems somewhat implausible because my feet barely go in the water.  It seems like about 50% of the people out there do it.  I didn't used to, but I surfed with an Australian guy who was kicking and getting a lot of waves, so I tried it.  I know lots of guys who are good surfers who think it's spastic and would never do it, or think it attracts sharks.  What do you dbags think?

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #1 on: September 02, 2005, 09:14:44 AM »
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  • I'm not an expert on this subject at all (I was "taught" to swim by being pushed into a lake by my older brother - no formal lessons, so my form is bad).  But on swaylocks they had a long discussion on paddling once and several guys with serious credentials (one guy competed against Mark Spitz, etc) said that when swimming kicking isn't done to propel you forward at all because it is terribly inefficient.  They said it was done to simply to keep the body horizontal so that it planed properly.  If this is true then I doubt kicking before taking off for a wave does much.  But if it feels like it does and you are catching a lot of waves then it isn't hurting anything.

    This is just one dbags second hand info.

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #2 on: September 02, 2005, 09:19:14 AM »
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  • I fully support kickin on take offs, I will kick anyone with in legs reach!

    Jake

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #3 on: September 02, 2005, 09:21:45 AM »
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  • only when riding a shortboard

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #4 on: September 02, 2005, 09:26:17 AM »
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  • i dont think kicking adds much in terms of paddle power but it probably helps to get those arms moving and keep your balance so in a way i guess it does increase ones ability to catch a wave. the best part about kicking though is that it generally scares off anyone within a 10 yard radius from trying to catch the wave b/c they are either blinding by the splashing water or just find it distrurbing...i.e equals more waves.
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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #5 on: September 02, 2005, 09:28:30 AM »
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  • i don't think kicking does anything except give you the illusion you're doing something.  someone tell me i'm wrong?

    Jake

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #6 on: September 02, 2005, 09:30:50 AM »
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  • i dunno i think u guys are wrong... paddle 2 jetty lenths one kicking and one not... see which one is faster...  i think it has to propell u ...to an extent why would boogieboarders do it?

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #7 on: September 02, 2005, 09:31:37 AM »
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  • i think it might do something. just look at bodyboarders - they generate 75% of there takeoff speed from kicking. (ps i always thought that surfers that kicked were subconsciously reliving their bodyboard days, kinda like an appendix or something).
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    Jake

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #8 on: September 02, 2005, 09:32:38 AM »
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  • hahahaahaha  it has to do something

    sunset gun

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #9 on: September 02, 2005, 09:34:20 AM »
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  • BBers wear fins.

    Jake

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #10 on: September 02, 2005, 09:34:59 AM »
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  • i have big feet

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #11 on: September 02, 2005, 09:39:37 AM »
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  • I can't see anyone kicking on a longboard, but shifting weight around by straightening the legs does help give that extra push.  At least it feels like it.

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005, 11:23:09 AM »
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  • Body boarders have fins on that are immersed in the water so they gain propulsion.
    Surfers who kick look like they are slapping the top of the water making a lot of splash.
    I seriously doubt it has any effect at all on propulsion. I personally think it looks spastic and
    probably wastes more energy than it's worth.   
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #13 on: September 02, 2005, 11:50:34 AM »
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  • Body boarders have fins on that are immersed in the water so they gain propulsion.
    Surfers who kick look like they are slapping the top of the water making a lot of splash.
    I seriously doubt it has any effect at all on propulsion. I personally think it looks spastic and
    probably wastes more energy than it's worth.   

    bingo!!!!

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    Re: Kicking or no kicking on takeoff?
    « Reply #14 on: September 02, 2005, 12:27:06 PM »
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  • WRONGO. It helps.
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