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generating speed backside?
« on: August 08, 2013, 08:41:16 PM »
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  • ok so i used to avoid lefts since i ride with my left foot forward.  although im getting more used to them, i can't seem to get the pumping down.  unfortunately i dont see tutorials or videos on this...anyone have any pointers to generate speed backside?

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #1 on: August 08, 2013, 09:23:18 PM »
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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 12:17:09 AM »
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  • Surf more off your backfoot when going backhand. This lets you climb the wave more comfortably (and quickly,) and will give you more opportunities to slide back down into your front foot- which is where you're gonna gain most of your speed from trim and drag motions. 

    And maybe try watching some old videos of
    Tom Carroll surfing. Doubt there's ever been a more backfooted surfer. Great guy to try to copy if you wanna be able to throw loose style turns with even a stiff board.
    « Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 12:31:58 AM by thanks_table »

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    generating speed backside?
    « Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 01:51:22 AM »
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    generating speed backside?
    « Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 02:00:48 AM »
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  • TC is killin it in that vid

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 06:30:04 AM »
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  • Tom Carroll kills it but surfing backside at sunset on a 8' gun doesn't actually require speed generation.... he's trying to bleed speed in that vid....

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 08:25:02 AM »
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  • Tom Carroll kills it but surfing backside at sunset on a 8' gun doesn't actually require speed generation.... he's trying to bleed speed in that vid....

    Totally true, but the idea was more to show how backfooted his maneuvering is. He basically surfs with the whole front half of his surfboard not touching the water, and his front foot rarely goes farther than 2/5th's towards the nose.

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 10:58:49 AM »
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  • I also avoid backside, being goofy foot in NY is great. The only time I actually prefer backside is when it gets big. The feel of a bottom turn backside on an overhead wave is one of my favorite things in surfing. This doesn't help the original question at all unfortunately.

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 12:19:52 PM »
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  • One of the keys to back side surfing is "squaring your shoulders" to the wave.
    Meaning, rotate your upper body so that the wave isn't behind you but beside you while you ride .
    Of course your upper body will rotate back and forth as you ride, but a big flaw for many people is never rotating the upper body. An example of this is pig dog position, the waves side hand can drag in the face because the shoulders/upper body is rotated. This rotation often needs to often happen immediately upon pop-up or you just go DOWN to the bottom of the wave, which is fine if you want to do a bottom turn but not fine if you want to just drop into a mid-face line and start pumping from there..... the rotation also needs to happen if you ARE doing a bottom turn.
    Yup Parko in that video surfing backside, watch his wave side hand and shoulder, it is frequently towards the wave.

    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 12:26:30 PM »
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  • great info guys...i appreciate it.  if anyone comes across an instructional video like ive seen with regular front side...that would be great as well.

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 03:29:11 PM »
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  • Listen to Loosness
    He rides backside so naturally you don't even think...sheeit he doing that backside.



    ..Whore it to death then sell the corpse on Craigslist... (used to be Ebay but eff Ebay and Paypal)

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    generating speed backside?
    « Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 04:54:36 PM »
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  • ^^ Nice fuckin english bro ^^

    Like mine as well?

    Loosey is spot on backside and his explanation is very helpful. From what I have seen Loosey also stays low on his board with a relaxed, poised and ready stance. Does that make sense?
    « Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 04:57:37 PM by Kyle »

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 05:41:00 PM »
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  • Thanks fellas.
     I'm a proponent of practicing  the body motions on dry land. Brad Gerlach talked about this in an article on surf coaching. You can know you should be rotating your shoulders, but will you do it the next time you surf? Do the motions of popping up into pig dog or a rotated stance, as well as bottom turning, pumping, etc, a LOT, like 50 times in a row. on multiple occasions. Not only gets it into your muscle memory but it's a good workout. Then it comes more naturally when you surf.

    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #13 on: August 09, 2013, 07:13:09 PM »
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  • I don't always surf backside but when I do I prefer  NJ .... Stay thirsty my friends

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    Re: generating speed backside?
    « Reply #14 on: August 09, 2013, 10:44:11 PM »
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  • Notice how back footed these guys surf:
    The World's First Surfing Mice - The Radical Rodents