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Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2007, 12:02:21 PM »
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  • meeting thursday.  exercise your rights.
    did you read this psycho?  and you checked your email yesterday, right?

    spf and i saw you.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #31 on: July 31, 2007, 01:04:57 PM »
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  • Yes I have read it but alotta these meetings take place way to early, I know the last 1 was scheduled for 7pm I didnt get home till later & then becuase of the huge storm, I had to pick up my wifey so I thought by 7:45pm I had missed it tho eeryone siad I didnt. In the midle of the week, a 7pm meeting is tuff especially lately with my insane work.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #32 on: July 31, 2007, 01:12:15 PM »
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  • Yes I have read it but alotta these meetings take place way to early, I know the last 1 was scheduled for 7pm I didnt get home till later & then becuase of the huge storm, I had to pick up my wifey so I thought by 7:45pm I had missed it tho eeryone siad I didnt. In the midle of the week, a 7pm meeting is tuff especially lately with my insane work.

    its at 7:30, a little bit later to accomodate the city commuters. please go, even if you're a little late its better to have you there than not!

    i'm having serious issues about the issues right now. moral dilemna, really. i need to bounce stuff off you. bounce like a .25 crazyball from a c-town gumball machine.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #33 on: July 31, 2007, 01:12:38 PM »
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  • it's at 7:30.  It's tough to make it later than that 'cause some people have to get back home and in bed before midnight.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #34 on: July 31, 2007, 01:13:02 PM »
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  • .....a 7pm meeting is tuff especially lately with my insane work.

    dude, how do you do any work when you type 4000 word mini novels on here?  :D ;D
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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #35 on: July 31, 2007, 02:57:48 PM »
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  • I could show you, but your not gonna like it! ;)

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #36 on: August 01, 2007, 12:45:42 PM »
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  • Beach is closed for 1/2hr. after thunder is 1st heard, it's state law, beach is reopened if no thunder heard after 1/2 hr., happens at all the state parks too.

    Lightening can strike, even up to 5 miles away, if thunder is heard in the distance.

    so what law is that one?
    pardon my niavete (not sure how it's spelt in the US)

    Here's the law as taken from NYS Health Code Title 10:
    Effective Date:  06/23/2004
    Title: Section 6-2.16 - Control of beach and water use

    6-2.16 Control of beach and water use. (a) All areas of an operator's property that are adjacent to the designated public beach area and are accessible to the public for entry into the water for bathing shall be supervised or patrolled during hours of operation. Bathing shall be prohibited where required supervision is not provided.

    (b) Operators must maintain signs stating the hours during which public bathing is allowed, and that bathing at other times is prohibited.

    (c) No motorized vehicles except emergency and maintenance vehicles shall be permitted on the beach.

    (d) No boating, water skiing, fishing, or surfboarding shall be permitted in the bathing area during the hours bathing is allowed. Separate areas for the above activities may be designated by floating lines and buoys.

    (e) Bathing at night or during electrical thunderstorms is prohibited.

    (f) Clearly visible depth markings shall be provided at all diving boards, platforms, piers, floats and similar facilities. Warning signs stating "No Diving" shall be provided where water depths are less than eight feet.

    (g) Diving shall not be permitted unless minimum depths in accordance with provisions in section 6-2.19, item 4.8.2, of this Subpart are provided.

    (h) All plug-in electrical devices, such as portable announcing systems and radios, are prohibited within 20 feet of the water.

    (i) Bather use. (1) The maximum number of bathers permitted in the bathing waters of a bathing beach shall not exceed one bather per 25 square feet of water surface. In areas of water depth greater than four feet, at least 75 square feet per bather shall be provided.

    (2) The operator shall be responsible for restricting usage so that the maximum capacity is not exceeded.

    (3) A sign stating the maximum number of persons who may use the bathing beach at any one time shall be posted in a conspicuous place.

    (j) Glass containers shall not be permitted on the beach.
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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #37 on: August 02, 2007, 12:21:00 PM »
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  • Half the rules & regs on this list are not posted anywhere, and Im not being rude at so dont take it that way (People seem to think Im yelling all the time or angry) but how to you rope off an Area for Boats, Jetski's & surfboards? Ive never seen any depth markers, signs for closed beaches or any of that stuff. Looks like super out dated rules, Maybe? I dont know. Seems a mess for the modern changes going on in R0ckaway.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #38 on: August 03, 2007, 07:57:44 AM »
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  • Half the rules & regs on this list are not posted anywhere, and Im not being rude at so dont take it that way (People seem to think Im yelling all the time or angry) but how to you rope off an Area for Boats, Jetski's & surfboards? Ive never seen any depth markers, signs for closed beaches or any of that stuff. Looks like super out dated rules, Maybe? I dont know. Seems a mess for the modern changes going on in R0ckaway.

    Actually well OVER half the rules are not posted.   ;)   It would not be realistic to expect every rule to be posted.  Every traffic/pedestrian law on the books is not posted. 
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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #39 on: August 03, 2007, 12:11:42 PM »
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  • oh i dont doubt it. Im sure theres rules & subrules in Subsections that are subliminal. ;D

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #40 on: August 17, 2007, 11:16:14 AM »
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  •  You folks need to get working behind the scenes. The Spring Lake case had nothing to due with the that leash issue.The final result was the surfers lost the case because of the lame arguement. The powers to be wanted the publicity and had the worse law in NJ PASSED  against surfing. SL WAS ready to change the law. I was working with THE Surfrider lawyer at the time, yet SEA AND UNGER wanted a show. The argued the town had no jurisdication below the high tide line, citing the public trust doctrine as backbone. Lame, and since SL wanted to change it , and UNGER  WANTED PUBLICITY. The day was a decent size cane swell, sunny and the beach was closed.That was Ungers demise in SEA. Ya have to know when to bluff, when to fold and when to hold. You need inside people at the PARKS dept. working for ya.

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #41 on: August 17, 2007, 01:57:47 PM »
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    You need inside people at the PARKS dept. working for ya.

    Probably the single most important sentence in this entire thread.
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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #42 on: August 17, 2007, 02:13:06 PM »
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    You folks need to get working behind the scenes. The Spring Lake case had nothing to due with the that leash issue.The final result was the surfers lost the case because of the lame arguement. The powers to be wanted the publicity and had the worse law in NJ PASSED  against surfing. SL WAS ready to change the law. I was working with THE Surfrider lawyer at the time, yet SEA AND UNGER wanted a show. The argued the town had no jurisdication below the high tide line, citing the public trust doctrine as backbone. Lame, and since SL wanted to change it , and UNGER  WANTED PUBLICITY. The day was a decent size cane swell, sunny and the beach was closed.That was Ungers demise in SEA. Ya have to know when to bluff, when to fold and when to hold. You need inside people at the PARKS dept. working for ya.

    hey - thanks much for the insight. Maybe we need you on our board of advisors!

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    Re: Worse display of Beach Authority ever.
    « Reply #43 on: August 17, 2007, 08:46:53 PM »
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  • Surfrider has done a great job locally, Doc R  has been a surfers dream.