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Community Board Meeting
« on: September 04, 2007, 10:24:13 AM »
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  • Please note that Community Board next meeting is on September, 10 and not on the 11th. The YMCA is on the agenda. I encourage everyone to attend. Location,  333 Beach 90 St., Knights Of Columbus. Time 7:45 PM

    DaK and Mario both mentioned how great it would be to have a competitive swimming pool in the R0cks so local swimmers could have meets here instead of LB or Brooklyn. As an Arverne home owner, I think the developer should give back to the community (all of Rockaway) and get an 8 lane pool, not a 4 lane pool.

    Also, I bet the new surf beach will be on the agenda. I do think it relieve some of the crowding and is a good addition for surfers. This would be the time to say what you feel about the other spot.

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 12:14:16 PM »
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  • BB ,remind me to update you on the meeting i attended specifically about the plans for the YMCA & pool.  I took some copious notes on the back of their brochure.  Anyway, sounds like a 4 lane competitive pool and an accompanying "aquatic center" with slides and very shallow warmer water for the very young and older folks is favored over a 6-lane competitive.  I think the choice is either to nix the aquatic center OR raise about $1M for the 6-lane to become reality.

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 03:34:25 PM »
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  • 6 lane not 8 lane, my bad.

    my interest and concern is on what was agreed to when the developers 1st met with the CB. If they said 4 and an aquatic center at their originals meetings, then I am fine with a 4 lane pool but I would have like 6 to hold meets, and get real swimming action in r0ck.

    But if they said six at the CB and are now changing it to 4, then I have a problem with that. I guess that will come out at the CB.

    Anyway, I still think it is important to have surfers there. At the very least we can say thanks for the work the CB does, at most we can make friends and influence people.


     

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 04:28:19 PM »
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  • 6 lane not 8 lane, my bad.

    my interest and concern is on what was agreed to when the developers 1st met with the CB. If they said 4 and an aquatic center at their originals meetings, then I am fine with a 4 lane pool but I would have like 6 to hold meets, and get real swimming action in r0ck.

    But if they said six at the CB and are now changing it to 4, then I have a problem with that. I guess that will come out at the CB.

    Anyway, I still think it is important to have surfers there. At the very least we can say thanks for the work the CB does, at most we can make friends and influence people.

    I hafta say that the when i spoke with the developer and he seemed pretty reasonable and they're stepping to the plate with their original commitment in $ and then some.  It's just that the YMCA and design firm made some assumptions about what is best for the community without actually asking the community what their needs were.  All in all, i don't think they're that far off base, but as usual it seems like they put the cart before the horse.  They're talking about building the facility according to their plans and then asking the community to help construct the time schedules and programming.  Seems like one should have done that first and then built a building best suited for that programming.

    Ideally, i think 6-lanes and an aquatic center would both be good, but not feasible within this budget unless they take out something else.  The extra 2 lanes are quite important for competitive swimming (not to mention that there's zero space for bleachers or any seating whatsoever for parents and competitors), but the aquatic center does sound like a good idea for the community.  Basically, i think a more rigorous analysis needed to be done about the actual uses for the pool.  Once it's built, that's it.  You're never gonna get the money for expand that pool or build a new one.  honestly, i think they should consider trying to scratch up another mil and half or so to do it right.


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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 04:32:56 PM »
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  • I agree.

    It's a no brainer that an aquatic center would make $$'s - I'm surprised that no entrepenuers have stepped up to do this.

    Obviously I haven't put much thought into this hence I ask, but why do municipalities tend to own polls/aquatic centers and not private firms?
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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 05:36:02 PM »
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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 08:14:57 PM »
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  • YMCA is putting up half the money.  i assume they're expecting a return on their investment.

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 10:38:40 AM »
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  • From the Wave:

    Community Board To Weigh 'Y' Delay
    By Brian Magoolaghan

    The community board is likely to ask the developers of the YMCA at Arverne By The Sea to hold off seeking final approval so that additional funds can be raised to expand one of the proposed facility's pools, The Wave has learned.

     
    An artist's rendering of the YMCA at Arverne By The Sea, which is to be built on the northwest corner of Beach 73 Street and Rockaway Beach Boulevard. 
     
    Board members are said to want a 60- day stay so that they can solicit the Mayor's Office and Federal elected officials for an estimated $2 million to $3 million to add two lanes to the proposed four-lane lap pool, according to District Manager Jonathan Gaska. That could pose a major problem for the developers, who could see the project cost - which has already ballooned to an estimated $13 million - continue to rise while their tentative construction schedule is thrown off course.

    The issue is expected to come up at the September meeting of Community Board 14, where members of the public will be able to speak on the subject.

    Plans for the proposed two-story, 32,000 square-foot Y, were first made public last month. They show a 25-yard-long, 30-foot-wide, four-lane lap pool that has a depth range from about 3 to 9 feet. It shares an 8,755 square-foot area with an irregularly shaped aquatic center, which has a zero-entry (extreme shallow end) and gradually reaches a 4-foot depth. That pool will have a spray shower and slide.

     
    Design plans call for a four-lane lap pool and an aquatic center, but some say the lap pool should be bigger. 
     
    While several board members said they were pleased with the Y's design and amenities, other board members and several community members say the lap pool must be larger. And, they say, it will be cheaper to build a bigger pool from the get-go than to expand one that proves to be too small.

    The Y's developers, the YMCAof Greater New York and Benjamin/Beechwood, the developers of Arverne By The Sea, strongly support their design and don't have to follow Community Board 14's recommendations. At the meeting last month, they appeared intent on getting approval for their plans, starting construction by year's end and having the Y open by the second quarter of 2009. "I think we would rather proceed," said Gerard "Gerry" Romski, of Arverne By The Sea, when The Wave asked him this week about the potential issue. "I'll deal with it when it happens," he said. "It certainly would delay things."

    A representative for the YMCA of Greater New York was not immediately available for comment.

    Gaska said the board is likely to vote on whether to ask for the 60-day stay after CB14's Housing and Urban Renewal Committee gives its update on the Y at the board's September 10 meeting at the Knights of Columbus Hall, 333 Beach 90 Street. The Budget and Youth Services and Education Committees are also slated to give updates. The meeting starts at 7:45 p.m.


     

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 10:10:55 AM »
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  • I hope to see some of you at this meeting.  I know it's a PITA to go to these things but it's the only way to get your voice heard.  I'd get there early as I think it's going to be crowded.

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 11:48:50 AM »
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  • Man I dont know that I can make this one. Im so filled to the rim with Brim today, I dont knwo when Im geting outta work. 1rst day ack from Vaca, uhg...

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 08:31:30 PM »
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  • post from CB14 meeting. Its packed to the gills, standing room only.

    Also the tension in the room is thick. Theres a cop on stand by in the room to keep things cool.   

    This is R0ckaway at its finest. I'm stoked on this. I plan on thanking CB14 for the new surf beach.

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #11 on: September 10, 2007, 08:33:54 PM »
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  • post from CB14 meeting. Its packed to the gills, standing room only.

    Also the tension in the room is thick. Theres a cop on stand by in the room to keep things cool.  

    This is R0ckaway at its finest. I'm stoked on this. I plan on thanking CB14 for the new surf beach.

    Thanks for the update (and thanks to SS for getting BB the iPhone so he can update).  Let us know how the whole thing goes.  I'd be there but I am working nights this week.
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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 08:42:15 PM »
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  • Thanks for the update BB!!

    Ditto on Kook's request for a summary. I just got in from work...totally spaced that the meeting was tonight.
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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 08:42:54 PM »
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  • no worries DaK, I got ur back. Dude its get more tense and some people are talking board members down.
    im loving it

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    Re: Community Board Meeting
    « Reply #14 on: September 10, 2007, 08:46:37 PM »
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  • What's the current topic?
    "I guess y'all are dying to know why I drink. Well, I'll tell you why. Technically there is a lack in my basal-metabolism, I was born with an arterial difficency-my structure craves and needs alcohol. I'm okay, my body's a drunk. Mentally, I'm a nun. In my set I'm known as Sister Dino." - Dean Martin