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Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
« on: August 02, 2010, 06:57:52 PM »
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  • I'm jealous of those beach block gardens because you have more of a chance of pulling this off than anywhere in the 5boros.
    Blueberry has successfully grown passion fruit overwinter outside, Northstreet grew a pepper overwinter in the snow and it now has a huge pepper on it!


    Now I challenge you all to grow a windmill palm or sabal minor palm (hardiest of all). or perhaps even a hardy banana!

    http://www.nygardener.com/forums/load/nygarden/msg0812270831791.html


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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 06:50:10 AM »
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  • There is a palm growing next to crackie the whale next to the boardwalk on beach 94th....also, i still have some northern sable palm seeds if you want to try in your own greenhouse....

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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 10:07:40 AM »
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  • Greenhouse is cheating but I'll go for it. Any idea when crackie's palm was installed?
    Wonder if it went through last winter? I gotta check it out!
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 12:26:15 PM »
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  •  :D :D :D
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 08:16:36 PM »
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  • Onefin that south facing street garden of yours is ideal for this climate bending challenge!
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 10:01:41 PM »
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  • By the way, any mods out there- please move this to the Garden room where I meant to place this thread. Sorry my bad.
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 10:19:58 AM »
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  • Where an one get cold hardy palms?  Would love to try it out.  My yard faces south and is surrounded by white pvc fencing which keeps the yard immediately around it warm as hell. 

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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 06:23:26 PM »
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  • Charlotte North Carolina nursery source, so they come from pretty hardy stock.
    http://www.chillypalmtree.com/
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 06:26:20 PM »
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #9 on: August 10, 2010, 07:23:09 PM »
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  • I charted 2010 air temps from the New York harbor bouy ROBN4. The coldest it got last winter was 12f, which I think is a pretty good litmus test for beach block gardens.


    Interestingly, 44065 air temps only reached 18f, a 6 degree swing in thermal protection from the sea vs the harbor.
    One could deduce that half of the palms on the hardiestpalms.com list are beach block garden candidates.


    pindo, sabal palmetto, and sabal birmingham are some I would be interested in experimenting with.
    If you are going to purchase this year, I recommend keeping it indoors on a south facing window sill, then put it in the ground in April so that it has a whole growing season to get established.
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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 07:51:02 PM »
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  • I don't live on a beach block but, I'm a block from the beach and a block from the Bay, that has to help right. Also the whole full Southern exposure can't hurt?

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    Re: Pushing the Tropics in NY: Hardy Palm Garden
    « Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 12:26:57 PM »
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  • Definitely BB, I had your garden in mind, especially against the heated south facing wall where there is great west wind protection from the service berry trees. It could be a palm and passion fruit bonanza!
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