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Torn Labrum
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »
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  • Just got MRI results showing a torn labrum in my shoulder. Has anyone else here had experience with this, or a similar shoulder injury?  I'm wondering how long I'll be out of the water after surgery.
    I noticed pain in February and brushed it off as a pulled muscle, once I regained full range of motion.  I was surfing as much as possible since, with only minimal pain sometimes. Doing some research it looks like swimming can be a cause, although I'm pretty sure it was from boxing. I'd like to paddle out one last time before surgery next month but don't want to make it worse. Anyone here mess up their shoulder and can shed some light on the recovery process?   

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:03:05 AM »
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  • I've had quite a few instances of dislocating my shoulder / tearing of cartilage, etc, BUT, ONLY A FEW MINOR tears, since I began some simple yoga practices. I'll get back to that.


    Recovery time can depend on severity. You should be back to like 60-80% in 3 weeks. I'm a huge fan of icing injuries. I know it's annoying, but ice can probably cut out at least a couple of days or more. Healing the last amount can take the longest and be the most difficult, although it'll just be annoying and won't limit you that much. Sometimes I like to start strengthening before I'm totally healed. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it's a minor setback. Definitely don't hurt the injury again or healing time will increase.


    For strengthening, I start out on the easiest level of Thermaband. There are several different motions you can you use to help. These motions are detailed in the Thermaband instructions or their website. But, I've had much more success with yoga.


    The key to a restorative yoga practice is a very breath-centered approach. What you want is to gently stretch while doing Pranayama breathing, which will bring oxygen, red / white blood cells, and nutrients to the area to help heal. Eventually, once you're healed, you can increase intensity and work on your strength and flexibility to reduce the chance of a future tear. Taking supplements like MegaRed or Glucosamine / Chondroitin may also help strengthen your joint.


    So strengthening all of the muscles, push / pull, everything will definitely help. Another tip I was taught is to always keep your shoulder blade down when doing activities. For people who are naturally flexible, you're body can do some weird moves that will lead to injury. So keeping that blade down will keep the socket tighter and reduce the chance of tearing.


    I am by no means trained or any kind of specialist, but these have been my experiences dealing with my shoulders. Just for fun, here's a list of my torn / dislocated shoulders: snowboarding 360 biffed the landing, ultimate frisbee went for a high throw, cliff jumping landed arm out, surfing paddling out in big waves in NY, paddling for wave in Barbados dead tired, rock climbing dynoing for a hold (got that one of video somewhere)


    Hope that helps, listen to your body, it will tell you the most.




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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 11:58:46 AM »
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  • Thanks Ross, appreciate the advice and suggestions. Definitely will look into the yoga. I'm sure they'll have me doing similar stuff in PT. 
    When you said 60-80% recovery in three weeks, is that with or without surgery?
    I'm surprised paddling can tear up a shoulder like that. They always say swimming is better for you since there's less strain on your joints. I'll have to pay attention to it next time, I've def been dead tired, feeling like I can't paddle anymore.

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 12:20:25 PM »
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  • Have a slap tear..I just pt'd it...torn labrum is the least of my worries injury wise
    "get your f**cking facts straight and quit being an idiot"
     
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    Torn Labrum
    « Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 01:03:53 PM »
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  • Slap tear here too either from boxing or surf
    Had it about a year year and a half only reason I  considering surgery is getting tired of the pain after boxing surfing or when it's rainy or when I wake up or during hockey takin a shot or bumping along the boards

    been able to surf just sucks when you take a set on the head and the board is torquing around also sucks after a bad session of golf and wiffleball has been put on hiatus.

    Thinking of getting it done next fall though after summer work is done

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 03:46:42 PM »
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  • Yeah pain sucks...wears u out
    "get your f**cking facts straight and quit being an idiot"
     
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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 01:27:05 PM »
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  • Anyone have any information about or experience with PRP transfusions as an alternative to surgery for labral tears? 

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    Re: Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 04:13:09 PM »
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  • Anyone have any information about or experience with PRP transfusions as an alternative to surgery for labral tears?
    Prepare to pay..not covered...I doubt it would do anything with a tear
    "get your f**cking facts straight and quit being an idiot"
     
    christian fletcher

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #8 on: October 16, 2015, 11:56:15 AM »
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  • I was diagnosed with a torn rotator last fall. No specific injury, just overall wear and tearů Pain was bad couldn't surf for a few months up to that point. Got a lot of good info searching around this forum. I was all set of surgery, but PT really worked. Had no problem surfing in Nicaragua last February, after about 4 months rest and training the shoulder. Also, adjusted my paddling technique which I feel is crucial. Keep your chest lifted and Pinching your shoulders together. Years of bad habits, where fatigue tends to get you lying flat on the board, flopping your arms and putting all the fulcrum on the shoulder joints. That really took it's toll.

    Haven't felt any pain since. I really think the break from surfing helped as much as PT. Bottom line, I'm glad I didn't get the surgery. As they say, once you're cut, you're cut.

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 08:44:35 PM »
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  • 75J I'm two years from having my labrum surgery and now have torn labrums in BOTH shoulders. I'm PTing the hell out of both and avoiding surgery for as long as possible. Super frustrated, the success rate of this surgery is not very encouraging. I'll look into your paddling technique as I thought keeping your head/chest down was better form. In any case, thankful I can still surf. 

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #10 on: December 03, 2015, 03:25:43 PM »
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  •   I'm sorry to hear about your shoulder. The shoulder joint has the greatest range of motion out of all other joints in our body, which is why it is the joint most prone to injury. The way surfing involves the use of your arms and shoulders, it puts a lot of strain on the shallow joint. The best thing to be doing is putting a cold compress on it to reduce the inflammation and swelling. This will also help relieve related pain. Also, try to immobilize it as much as possible. Because of the range of motion of the shoulder, it is very easy to re-injure it and make it worse. 
    To help the injury, focus on things that increase the blood flow (but with minimal strain). I recommend treatments that don't require a lot of exertion in being able to do so. Things such as massage therapy, ultrasound, BFST, acupuncture, etc. These types of treatment give you the nutrients and oxygen you need to heal but reduce the risk factors involved with a lot of physical activity. It's also very important to follow anything physical with a cold compress. If the area is inflamed it hinders the blood flow even more than it would typically.

    Here is a lot of great info about shoulder labrum tears: http://kingbrand.com/./Shoulder-Labrum-Tear.php?REF=1110PV0.00

     
    « Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 09:02:07 PM by ALS8 »

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    Re: Torn Labrum
    « Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 11:42:26 PM »
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  • Whats up about 2 years ago I had a torn labrum. It was really bad to the point where it would fall out in my sleep, also if I surfed heavy waves it would fall out and leave me with one arm in the water. After it getting very bad I got the surgery. I was back in the water in around 2 months just took a little time to get strong again. still isn't 100% but is much better than it was. If yours isn't to bad i would try to hold off on getting the surgery.