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I have turned into a swimming fool
« on: February 07, 2017, 02:25:29 PM »
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  • Joined a new gym with a great lap pool back in November, realized very quickly just how much my wind and endurance had deteriorated, and made up my mind to swim laps as often as I could this winter.


    It seems to be working: 50 visits to the gym since December 1st, swam every single time (along with other stuff, usually) - minimum half mile each time.


    I know a half mile isn't really all that far for accomplished/regular swimmers, but you have to take this from where it's coming from: I have NEVER swam laps in my life, save a 2 week stint on a YMCA swim team when I was 12. (Coach was creepy - got out of there as fast as I could!)


    So here's the shocking part: I can't believe how much I'm enjoying it! I would say that i missed out all these years, but that's not really true: I never really had a good/convenient place to swim laps before. Just glad that I have one now.


    Best part? I think it's helping - I feel like I have better wind, and I trimmed off a couple of stubborn pounds (still have a couple more to go).


    Haven't gotten to surf in forever - but I'm very curious if I'm going to be able to feel any difference in my paddling and/or endurance out there. Time will tell...perhaps the next decent swell. **cough...Thursday...cough***.  ;)

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 03:35:33 PM »
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  • I'm super stoked for you. I'm pretty sure you know I'm all about swim training for surfing.
    I have no doubt that you will notice paddle benefits from it. Let me know if you want a little routine to start with to make things interesting and push yourself a bit.
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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 05:08:05 PM »
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  • Let me know if you want a little routine to start with to make things interesting and push yourself a bit.

    Hey @Looseness, would you mind posting that routine here?  I would love to get your advice on surf specific swim programs.   

    I've seen the most benefit to my surfing when I focus on sprints and using hand paddles.  Distance has been great to solidify my baseline fitness, but to improve my paddle power getting into waves I've been focusing on harder shorter sprints.

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #3 on: February 07, 2017, 05:40:13 PM »
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  • way to go will.

    I likes me some swimming. I've been hitting the pool 3 or 4 times a week lately. I wish I had time to do more, but I usually just bang out a mile. some sets of 200s 100s and 50s would be nice, but I generally gotta get going to work.
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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 02:16:18 PM »
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  • Let me know if you want a little routine to start with to make things interesting and push yourself a bit.

    Hey @Looseness, would you mind posting that routine here?  I would love to get your advice on surf specific swim programs.   

    I've seen the most benefit to my surfing when I focus on sprints and using hand paddles.  Distance has been great to solidify my baseline fitness, but to improve my paddle power getting into waves I've been focusing on harder shorter sprints.


    First thing, let me take a moment to explain interval training for those who may not know. 
    You do a set of sprints, you give yourself an allotted amount of time to do the sprint and recover before starting the next sprint.
    So, I'm not real fast {getting old sucks}, right now I do 10 X 100 yards at 1:50 interval meaning, I swim the 100 yards in about 1:30, rest for 20 seconds and do the next 100, 10 times. It's fairly easy at first, but by the end i'm sucking wind and working to make the 1:30 time.   
    If I swim a lot and get faster, I drop the total interval time to 1:45 so I'm still working hard, gotta come in at 1:25 to get 20 seconds rest.
    I do {10X} 50 yard sprints on a 50 -55 second interval, only 10-15 seconds rest depending how fast i swim.
    Just swimming 100 and resting 20 seconds doesn't keep you honest and push you. The interval method keeps you honest and SERIOUSLY helps you by teaching your body to recover quickly. So not only do you get stronger from the sprinting, you may be able to spin and take that wave you luck into right after paddling out instead of having to paddle over it. So figure out what your pace is, and try the interval method. If you ain't sucking wind by the 7th or 8th 100, you're giving yourself too much time, going to slow, shorten the interval.
    I'll put up a routine soon, I gots work to actually do.....at work. 


     


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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 03:33:40 PM »
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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 10:52:26 AM »
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  • The Surfline routines are what I based mine on so you can work from there.
    I like to do over unders, which is swim 25 freestyle come back under water. Or the other way, swim down under water come back freestyle. These things prepare you physically and mentally for hold downs and situations you encounter in more intense surf.
    One should be careful and have a spotter if you do sets of underwater stuff.
    If you push it things can go wrong.
    A regular for me is:
    500yd medium pace warm up
    10 X 100yd 1:50 interval
    10 X 50yd 50 - 55 sec interval 
    6 over - unders or under - overs 20 -30 sec rest between
    300-400 cool-down swim {freestyle, maybe some backstroke}

    Dorado likes Ladder routines, I do them too sometimes, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, increasing in speed, shortening time as you go, then back up, not my favorite, but good for ya, 3000 yard swim total. 
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #7 on: February 09, 2017, 10:54:35 AM »
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  • That routine could be chopped in half if you're just getting started, but it gives you an idea.
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #8 on: February 09, 2017, 02:12:51 PM »
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  • @Looseness and @Dorado, do you ever use hand paddles (or anything else) to increase your resistance and mimic the drag from paddling with a board?

    The workouts above, especially the step downs, are great for cardio/energy systems fitness, and I've found that hand paddles (even the very small ones) help me to build my paddle strength as well.

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #9 on: February 09, 2017, 02:14:54 PM »
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  • I have used hand paddles . If not used properly or too much can be damaging to shoulders . I wear a drag suit .


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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #10 on: February 09, 2017, 02:16:44 PM »
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  • One of my new ones I do lately either in ladders or reg set intervals is
    Pull
    Kick
    Swim
    Or pull / kick .
    100 pull
    100 kick
    100 swim x however many you want


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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #11 on: February 09, 2017, 02:17:06 PM »
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  • Or do it as a ladder
    50
    100
    150
    200


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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #12 on: February 09, 2017, 02:17:59 PM »
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  • I use small flippers provide minimal propulsion enough to keep pace in the lane


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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #13 on: February 13, 2017, 05:29:17 PM »
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  • I have never tried the hand paddles.
    My version of a drag suit is to wear surf baggies, that feels like a lotta drag to me after the speedo jammers.
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: I have turned into a swimming fool
    « Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 03:55:23 PM »
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  • I have been swimming my whole life. The last 2 years has been specifically to keep in surf shape and to possibly do the great south bay swim. 
    Over unders are a favorite. I also do intervals but rather than recover on the wall i will do 50 or 25m at a slow pace. So sprint 100m slow 50m or 50m/25m. It forces you to recover while still active similar to a tough paddle out then jockey for position and catch a wave. I also do build sets to focus on form and build strength while keeping form. I usually do 100m build sets start slow focus on high elbow or EVF, really engaging my chest and lats and build to a sprint. I really need to build endurance though. I can do intervals for an hour straight but cant really do over 500m at a time with out bugging out. Its always been that way too. I was always a 50m 100m and 200m swimmer and 200m and 400m relay anchor.

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