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Title: Bonzer
Post by: Mims on July 20, 2005, 01:04:47 AM
Stumbled upon this article. Has the whole behind the scenes history of it. Kinda interesting.
http://www.honoluluweekly.com/archives/coverstory%201999/6-16-99%20Boards/6-16-99%20Boards.html (http://www.honoluluweekly.com/archives/coverstory%201999/6-16-99%20Boards/6-16-99%20Boards.html)
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: Mims on July 20, 2005, 01:08:58 AM
more bonzer articles:
http://www.eatonsurf.com/pdf/Bonzer%20SJ%20art/The%20Long%20Strange%20Saga%20of%20the%20Bonzer.pdf (http://www.eatonsurf.com/pdf/Bonzer%20SJ%20art/The%20Long%20Strange%20Saga%20of%20the%20Bonzer.pdf)

http://www.surfline.com/sdg/forum/07_01_bonzer.cfm (http://www.surfline.com/sdg/forum/07_01_bonzer.cfm)

http://www.eatonsurf.com/Bonzer.htm (http://www.eatonsurf.com/Bonzer.htm)

Goodnight.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 20, 2005, 08:23:50 AM
sent my deposit in a little while ago :)
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: uptown on July 20, 2005, 05:48:57 PM
NICE!  what are you getting?
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: Jake on July 20, 2005, 07:48:21 PM
i want one...
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: ya_bloody_wanka on July 20, 2005, 10:31:07 PM
whats the diffrence between a 5'10 performance round tail with a tri fin set up and the same board with a bonzer fin set up? ive always wondered this. the bonzers never really appealed to me until lately.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: nydubstar on July 21, 2005, 11:11:02 AM
http://www.bonzer5.com

eaton no comparison
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: HydroGlide on July 21, 2005, 12:16:16 PM
Those Bonzers look tempting.  I have a 5'11" almost 20" wide, Proctor Single Twin that I picked up from a very cool guy that used to post on the older, old board which I use with a widowmaker setup sometimes (7" or 6" center and FCS GL sides.  Do you think that a five fin Bonzer of similiar size would be a much different feel from that setup - more of a jet propulsion through the back due to bottom contour???   I actually would be looking for a five fin bonzer just below 7 feet or so (maybe a 6'9" mini or speed eggish shape) I could use it more frequently.  What do you think about a bonzer that size (compared to a single fin or tri) for local usage - and what size center fin would you use on it along with the 4 sides to keep it fast and reasonably loose? 
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 21, 2005, 03:16:41 PM
you'd be better served asking on nysurf
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: uptown on July 22, 2005, 02:59:38 AM
yo man what did you order?  dims, etc?
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: HydroGlide on July 22, 2005, 09:02:56 AM
you'd be better served asking on nysurf
You are probably right but then I would feel obligated to buy a T shirt for the service.  I have always been comfortable with my no T shirt, no shoes, no service path through life it, helps you to get better at self service.  I'm not really trying to join a club or get advice from some teenage faux gang banger who finishes a statement with "holla" - just looking to kill some work time with like minded people - just pacing the cage until it swings open and I can get back to what I really want to do, but it may be time to glide on back to my pre-internet path again.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: nydubstar on July 22, 2005, 10:46:51 AM
Strange reply...

I think he meant there are already several bonzer threads open over there, plus numerous ones in the archive, not to mention that money4coffeemicks posts over there and he has extensive bonzer experience.  ::)
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: HydroGlide on July 22, 2005, 11:30:01 AM
Strange reply...

Agreed - I can be cryptic sometimes.  I was referring to my perceived transfer of a not-for-profit surf website into a for-profit website on the other site (selling T shirts).  I'm aware of the threads over there on Bonzers but I just wanted to try to start a little more of the technical talk over here, where I perceive the site to be a little less for profit oriented (for now?). The pre-internet comment was more a reflection of my old time NY mentality when we just surfed for fun and checked by sight without too much discussion.  But unlike some of my friends, I'm flexible, trying to catch on to this internet exchange of ideas and information with "locals" from all over the world.  I now have more time and money now that the kids are a little older (and amazingly I stayed in good enough shape) to experiment with different kinds of boards so I appreciate the sharing of experience from experienced guys like  Micks and Dub before I make a buy.  It's just that I have a hard time watching the commercialization of surfing, especially as a fashion (ala white teenage suburbanites acting like they are from Compton) and I kind of cringe if I think my surf conversation may be getiing packaged and sold to internet advertisers - which is why I mentioned gliding back to my pre-internet days.  I know the generous people who put together these sites could use some reimbursement for cost and effort - personally, I would rather pay an annual fee than have these sites support more advertising bombardment of a bullshit fashion image.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: nydubstar on July 22, 2005, 11:44:13 AM
do you mean the brooklyn surfer ad?
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: HydroGlide on July 22, 2005, 02:07:58 PM
Yes, from what I understand (and I have been known to be wrong in the past) that is the first ad, with more advertisers watching the site now, prior to deciding.  I can't blame the owner, it seems like he has done alot for free over the years (second hand info) and it is an attractive marketing platform but I have always used the NY ocean as an escape from NY society at large, surfing has been a balancing weight to all I have to do on land, and it has worked well for me. Even way before now, before job/wife/kids when I used to go out with a crew of guys, we didn't do much talking in the water but when we were back on land, life as we knew it resumed with all its verbal insanity.  I never have, and hopefully never will, feel that it could be in the same category with anything done on land including skating and snowboarding.  As ridiculous as it sounds, despite the crowds and the actionsports extreme hype, it is still a personal relationship between me and the ocean, which I never wanted to betray by trying to sell the experience, in any form.   
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 22, 2005, 03:37:46 PM
Strange reply...

I think he meant there are already several bonzer threads open over there, plus numerous ones in the archive, not to mention that money4coffeemicks posts over there and he has extensive bonzer experience.  ::)

exactly.

think you're getting a little too crazy here.  go to the archived site and search and read.  also go to surfermag design and swaylocks and do the same.  you'll get more at surfermag design than anywhere else.  don't think micks is on this site yet, which (correct me if i'm wrong dub) means no one here has a bonzer.  commercial side of nysurf?  i haven't seen it.  that cafepress thing is beat and prob hasn't turned a dime in profit.  bet those 'brooklyn surfers' are friends of nysc.  no pop ups.  no bothers.  just bookmark the forum and go to it.  you're making much ado about nothing imo.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 22, 2005, 03:39:48 PM
oh and uptown i don't really know yet.  haven't heard back from malcolm (apparently he doesn't reply till he gets your deposit, and even then is slow).  i sent him pics of a bumble bee, pod, and 'shelter' i liked.  my bionic knee still isn't functioning well at all so i've become a heavy front foot surfer, so i'm thinking something with wp forward, high volume, etc, but not all out--i already have a single fin like that--some sort of a go between shape.  i'd tell you the color scheme i'm thinking but it's top secret--can't have anyone swipe my idea  :)
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: HydroGlide on July 22, 2005, 04:14:59 PM
I think I am crazy trying to make a point in a chatroom.  I have read and researched bonzers - I was looking less for actual advice and more to engage some experienced design discussion here, not over there - but no worries man - I lost the desire to engage but I do appreciate the response.  adios
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: uptown on July 22, 2005, 06:18:53 PM
cool man.  i've heard it takes a while.  i bought an old board from micks a couple years ago and when i met him he was telling me about ordering (i think) his first bonzer. he told me that he ovenighted a dozen NY bagels to malcom and it sped up the process :)

  i'd tell you the color scheme i'm thinking but it's top secret--can't have anyone swipe my idea  :)


haha nice!
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: VapourTrails on July 26, 2005, 01:39:13 PM
ya, the bagel part is true (my dad fed-ex'd them to moonlight).........not sure whether it sped up the process or not. feel like we got our bonzers in like 3 months, but this was before Shelter came out and the renewed interest in bonzers.

def worth the wait

btw, surfnli have u heard from malcolm yet?
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 26, 2005, 11:21:30 PM
i have not, and found out why today.  i left the depo to my mom to mail as i've been in the city all day every day and--surprise, surprise--she promptly forgot about it.  it's going out tomorrow...damn.  guess i'll christen it with a nor'easter.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: uptown on July 27, 2005, 04:03:15 PM
my mom once threw away my late 80's skateboard because she didn't think i wanted it anymore.  gotta watch out for moms :-\
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 27, 2005, 09:44:30 PM
they're so evil right?  i'm like yo ma, i am grown! and she's like okay, make your bed.
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: Random Guy on July 27, 2005, 09:57:24 PM
they're so evil right?  i'm like yo ma, i am grown! and she's like okay, make your bed.
mom's slackin'
if she was on the ball her response would be more like 'then get the f out of my house, freeloader'
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: nydubstar on July 27, 2005, 11:11:20 PM
my 6'4 diamond tail 5-fin Bonzer is laminated and awaiting final touches...same with the Pavel...wow I am stoked...Lis comes next  :o

(http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/501/151DSC01702.jpg)
Title: Re: Bonzer
Post by: surfnli on July 28, 2005, 03:08:33 PM
hahaha i pay rent!  if i was to move out, i'd have to get the hell out of here, too exxy for my meager earnings at present