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Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2008, 11:30:27 AM »
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  • def sad, but true. & you're talking about ny...wouldnt want to know the perception in states/areas where racism is a real commonplace

    What would make you think that racism is ANY less commonplace in NY than anywhere else?
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #16 on: November 03, 2008, 11:56:31 AM »
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  • Kook, what planet are you living on? 
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #17 on: November 03, 2008, 12:13:43 PM »
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  • Kook, what planet are you living on? 

    I am on earth with both feet firmly on the ground.  If you think that racism is less prevelant in NY/NJ/CT than elsewhere, then you are the kook living in some other universe.
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #18 on: November 03, 2008, 12:27:49 PM »
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  • I dunno. Racism exists everywhere. There is no doubt about it. But I do think it is less prevalent in the NY metropolitan area then it is in other parts of the country.

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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #19 on: November 03, 2008, 12:41:27 PM »
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  • Kook, what planet are you living on? 
    I dunno. Racism exists everywhere. There is no doubt about it. But I do think it is less prevalent in the NY metropolitan area then it is in other parts of the country.

    I'll share some of my naive points with you guys.

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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #20 on: November 03, 2008, 12:45:39 PM »
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  • You would think so...

    So tell me, If you are riding the subway at 1am and a group of young African-Americans comes through the train, making a lot of noise and such. What do you think? "Don't rob me" or "Hey, I wonder why they're so happy?"

    I doubt ANYONE would think the latter. and face it, you think that at first because of their race. It doesn't matter if you are black, white, green or have stripes.

    It's reality- and while people say they aren't racists- deep down there will ALWAYS be that tinge. Especially in situations like those.
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #21 on: November 03, 2008, 01:32:18 PM »
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  • i guess to clarify, here unlike say... parts of the southern US, you are less likely to see people so outspokenly racist. sure it goes on every day all over the country, but the intensity of IT does vary from state to state/area to area. but in the end its a social aspect. case & point are those vids psycho posted in this section. NO ONE for the most part would ever get away saying stuff like that in ny. ohio, or wherever that was shot you have people who really think & act as if its 1808, not 2008.

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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #22 on: November 03, 2008, 01:50:00 PM »
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  • I'm Hopeful, this is begining to feel like a very special time.

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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #23 on: November 03, 2008, 02:06:55 PM »
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  • I prefer the term "generalist' to racist for this discussion and the truth is we are all generalists.  We take a sample rate of experiences and extrapolate those to a higher degree.  Our society is geared to do that constantly and sociologists will tell you it is just an evolved survival instict ("I saw a dinosaur in the morning-> so all dinosaurs come out in the morning-> I better not go out in the morning or I will get eaten by a dinosaur") It's Logics express check-out. It saves time, but you don't always get everything you need.  Hence if you are not aware of it and able to turn it off, it consumes you.



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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #24 on: November 03, 2008, 02:46:10 PM »
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  • i guess to clarify, here unlike say... parts of the southern US, you are less likely to see people so outspokenly racist. sure it goes on every day all over the country, but the intensity of IT does vary from state to state/area to area. but in the end its a social aspect. case & point are those vids psycho posted in this section. NO ONE for the most part would ever get away saying stuff like that in ny. ohio, or wherever that was shot you have people who really think & act as if its 1808, not 2008.

    I'm sorry but you are just wrong.  Do you think that there are folks here in NY that don't think "schwartze" or "moulinyan" (I'm not gonna look up the spelling of either) before they think african american?  And believe it or not it goes the other way as well.
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #25 on: November 03, 2008, 03:03:34 PM »
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  • I've always known about the latent and blatent racism in Queens and Brooklyn. But man this election has really been bringing the bigots outta the wood work.
    The racism on the Queens Peninsula is really interesting. Its like a crazy social experiment. The 2 races live in the same neighborhood, shop at the same stores, drink in the same bar together, but deep down inside they don't like eachother as a whole.
    Out in Marine Park/ Sheepshead Bay/ Gerritsen Beach, racism in the election has spiraled out of control. I'm scared to wear my Obama pin when I go to my Mom's house!
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #26 on: November 03, 2008, 03:04:33 PM »
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  • well, in the several hours of work since this morning's post, the thread seems to have gone in the direction of racism in general, as opposed to different parts of rockaway. good.

    but before i go quietly into the night, i want to respond to dsa and frok being so offended that i reacted to dsa's original post:



    "I just cant vote for a black man"

    Was a comment made by an uptown local at a bar. That was his only issue with Obama and spoke for many in his neighborhood which explains why if you go up past 116, you'll see a McCain/Pailin sigh in almost every other yard. Racism still has a strong hand in this country, its really sad.

    now, that sure sounds to me like you feel this guy in the bar is a racist, that you believe what he said about many in his neighborhood sharing his beliefs, and that's the reason "why if you go up past 116, you'll see a McCain/Pailin sigh in almost every other yard."


    you then went on to point out how many mccain sighs there were in the neighborhood after bothering to drive there and count. by the way, on the way to work this morning after reading the thread, i looked myslef, and counted 3 mccain signs. very unscientific, but i must have been able to see about a hundred houses, and if there were signs in front of "every other" one, i should have been able to see about 50, no ?

    now this appears to be an argument for there being a higher concentration of racists west of 116, which i find idiotic. if that wasn't your intent, then i'm sorry...and i don't understand what point you were trying to make. if it was your point, own it and we can continue the discussion.
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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #27 on: November 03, 2008, 03:11:40 PM »
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  • ^ "less likely to see people so outspokenly racist" that is ALL im saying. i know what you mean, that def goes without saying. all in all, when it clearly presents itself, as dsa noticed & the very point of this thread in the first place, it comes off a bit strange. cant say i hear ANTYTHING like that around nj or ny. & yeah.. i suppose its subjective, just not something i hear everyday & never expect to

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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #28 on: November 03, 2008, 03:19:05 PM »
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  • As sad as it is there is truth to what Psycho is saying....

    Just listen to O&A in the morning.... Holy crap, i wanted to kick those mother f'ers in the balls. I couldnt dissagree with them more... Ignorance at its best.


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    Re: "I just cant vote for a black man"
    « Reply #29 on: November 03, 2008, 03:36:21 PM »
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  • Rockaway Bch racists are the kind who think they're being liberal and not racist b/c they say things like "deres uh big difference, deres duh good blacks then deres nigguhs, ya know?"

    If anyone wants to get scientific about it, simply consult a block-by-blok US census report - when considering the proven fact that looking at a region or socio-economic group, the less education, the lower the income, the greater % of people harbor pretty deeply ingrained racist viewpoints.