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Offline Northstreet

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Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2014, 09:05:13 AM »
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  • The paddler might have been wrong, but the rider should have done the moral thing and easily avoided the bouy.  If you can't avoid a person or 12 at NSSS you will get hurt or inflict pain.

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #16 on: January 19, 2014, 12:51:00 PM »
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  • BOTH ARE KOOKS but the paddler takes the prize, definitely. Directly in the line of fire, doesn't even try to paddle a stroke.


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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #17 on: January 19, 2014, 03:16:06 PM »
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  • According to surf code, it's the rider. You should always be able to pick a line around paddlers, and if you can't you should bail until you are good enough. Your ride is never worth running someone over.


    Although, I agree that paddlers are obligated to try a little harder.

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #18 on: January 19, 2014, 03:16:28 PM »
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  • The one having the most fun?

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #19 on: January 19, 2014, 06:06:55 PM »
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  • kdropin and cjsurf said it right. the guy could barely get to his feet. why the f*** was he running out onto the shoulder, he should have been cutting back ages ago. the paddler gave the guy plenty of room. it's scary surfing around people who surf like the rider - you can't guess where they're going to go. if the paddler had moved towards the foam, a normal surfer would have done a little snap onto his head.

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #20 on: January 19, 2014, 06:57:33 PM »
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  • Both kooks but the rider's fault seems to be that he wasnt skilled enough to change his line to avoid the paddler while the paddler was just totally lost out there.  Harder to fault someone for lack of skill than for lack of awareness. 


    I agree that as a rider you have to do all and anything in your power to avoid a collision. That rider was lucky he got and stayed on his feet, making a quick decision and changing his line is way out of his range.




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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #21 on: January 19, 2014, 09:25:35 PM »
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  • Hmm...yes perhaps you've got a point.  Being in control is a precondition to surfing anywhere near other riders. 


    Just a bit of a pet peeve when floaters sit there like driftwood.  One can generally be avoided, but sometimes it's two.  I'll paddle like blazes if I might be in the way...doesn't seem like much to ask.  When others do it for me it's really appreciated.


    Great video in any case - gives plenty ammo to both sides.  I'm sticking to my "double kook" story.  ;)

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #22 on: January 20, 2014, 12:50:11 AM »
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  • That is so messed up. Good thing the buoy ditched his board before impact. That was going to be a serious beheading.

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 08:07:58 AM »
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  • I was told at a young age by one of NJs best ever, "don't move, I'll go around." A few years ago, almost got skewered by Brooklyn Benny using same tactic. Lesson learned was that different rules apply in different situations. You are never safe when surfing with adult beginners.


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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #24 on: January 20, 2014, 08:24:56 AM »
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  • because i'd prefer to procrastinate this morning, i watched the video again. i had been so focused on how kooky the rider was from the time he got to his feet that i hadn't noticed the paddler was just standing there. and then turned their board into the rider. i had imagined a normal paddler just cruising out into the line-up, in which case any normal person would have expected the guy not to run out onto the shoulder like he did. i take it back though, the paddler was sort of floating sideways on the inside. i can't believe i just wasted a couple minutes watching that and posting this....

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #25 on: January 20, 2014, 09:08:01 AM »
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  • Any competent surfer would have easily avoided the stationary paddler.  To hit that paddler you'd either have to be trying to run him down or you'd have to be a complete kook.  No excuse for this rider.

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #26 on: January 21, 2014, 12:59:07 AM »
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  • While unfortunate and understandable, the rules are very clear on this matter.  the guy paddling out is in the wrong.  he should have went to the white water.   easy to say though haha.
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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #27 on: January 21, 2014, 07:09:29 AM »
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  • What rule says it's ok to run out of control way out onto the shoulder and run over a stationary person in the water???  :o

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #28 on: January 21, 2014, 01:35:31 PM »
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  • What rule says it's ok to run out of control way out onto the shoulder and run over a stationary person in the water???  :o
    Seriously id flip is someone had that much wave to work with and that much time to avoid and then basically squared me up and cut me in two

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    Re: Who's the kook? (Vid - click to view!)
    « Reply #29 on: January 21, 2014, 09:56:18 PM »
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  • The rider is the kook! He had all the room in the world to go around the paddler, hi or low. There is only so much speed and maneuverability a paddler has, it is the riders responsibility not to run over others in the water when it is absolutely avoidable, such as in this case. A wave is not worth endangering someone's health and well being. Too many factors that could have put that paddler in that section of the wave, not just poor entry point selection. We here, in the land of the beach break, should understand that better than most. I don't see the paddler throwing his board at all. If you look closer you will see that all he did was try to roll his board to put something between him and the rider to protect himself when he realized that this bonehead was heading straight at him. Can't fault him for that. There have been plenty of good waves I have had to bail on or let go by due to there being too many speed bumps being in the way to safely maneuver around.