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Re: This could get interesting.....
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 08:02:20 AM »
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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #2 on: July 19, 2018, 09:21:32 AM »
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  • "Bites"? I'd call them nibbles... The water looked really murky and opaque on the reports. Fluffy was probably just cruising around and ran into them.
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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #3 on: July 19, 2018, 09:35:08 AM »
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  • My neighbor caught a juvenile bull shark the other day while surf casting in Long Beach.  Hopefully this helps cut the crowds because this year is worse than anything I can remember in my 11 years of living here.

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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 02:49:36 PM »
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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 04:00:30 PM »
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  • The madness begins...

    "Ha, ha...They're all gonna die..."

    https://nypost.com/2018/07/19/sharks-pulled-from-water-at-fire-island-beach-after-attacks/


    Complete morons, what was the game plan here

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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 07:06:42 AM »
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  • My neighbor caught a juvenile bull shark the other day while surf casting in Long Beach.  Hopefully this helps cut the crowds because this year is worse than anything I can remember in my 11 years of living here.


    Any chance you have a pic? 
    Reason I ask is because I work in the general field (marine ecology, fisheries sciences) and small brown sharks (Carcharhinus plumbeus; endemic and not that threatening/aggressive) and bull sharks (Carcharhinus leucas; generally a southern species and much more aggressive and dangerous) are easily confused.  There have been many reports of bulls in the area, but none have yet been properly confirmed and documented.  The ichthyologists with whom I rub elbows always ask for photos or access to the carcasses when I relay these reports but so far no luck.  It would be good to start confirming these ID's so we can start tracking population migrations.

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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 12:08:35 PM »
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  • My neighbor caught a juvenile bull shark the other day while surf casting in Long Beach.  Hopefully this helps cut the crowds because this year is worse than anything I can remember in my 11 years of living here.

    Any chance you have a pic? 
    Reason I ask is because I work in the general field (marine ecology, fisheries sciences) and small brown sharks (Carcharhinus plumbeus; endemic and not that threatening/aggressive) and bull sharks (Carcharhinus leucas; generally a southern species and much more aggressive and dangerous) are easily confused.  There have been many reports of bulls in the area, but none have yet been properly confirmed and documented.  The ichthyologists with whom I rub elbows always ask for photos or access to the carcasses when I relay these reports but so far no luck.  It would be good to start confirming these ID's so we can start tracking population migrations.


    I don't unfortunately, just going off of what they told me.  That said, I'd trust what you think as someone in the field vs my neighbor.  I was kind of surprised when they told me to be honest since I didn't think they came this far north, always hear about them causing trouble with friends in Florida. 

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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #8 on: July 21, 2018, 09:18:23 AM »
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  • We've seen a lot of other traditionally southern species expand their ranges into our area over the past few decades, and bulls do travel a bit (even up the Mississippi into fresh water) so in my mind it's a matter of time (the question is years vs. decades) until we start seeing them intermittently-to-frequently here.  Figured it would be exciting to provide early documentation of their arrival if someone had some pics to ID

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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #9 on: July 21, 2018, 11:31:06 AM »
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  • Bulls are or were already here... They were responsible for those attacks in NJ in fresh water back in the 20s or whatever. Numerous have been spotted and caught in Great South Bay over the years as well.


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    Re: This could get interesting.....
    « Reply #10 on: July 21, 2018, 11:57:07 AM »
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  • I agree with that hypothesis (MUCH more likely than a GW traveling up into estuarine creeks).


    Looking document population range changes, particularly in modern-day period.  I've heard many anecdotal reports.  Need official ID's based on photos or inspection of actual carcasses, especially because Browns are very similar (related at genus level), enter lower-salinity waters, and easily mis-ID'ed as bulls (even a quick google image search yields numerous mis-identifications from should-be-reputable sources).


    I'm trying to gather supporting evidence that will satisfy the scientific and authoritative communities, not discredit reports if true.