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Re: So Long Boardwalk
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2014, 02:46:25 AM »
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  • inconvenient and annoying? sure it is,.however, thats the current situation on almost all the other blocks on the peninsula that used to have a boardwalk before Sandy. I love still having the 13 block stretch you live by, and it sucks that the board voted for an accelerated demo, but I can't seem to get that bent out of shape about it considering that this is the current situation for almost the entire boardwalk.

    I can definitely get bent out of shape about having to ride the A train again, to me its a big price to pay considering the former ferry.
    00 --- I hear you & I'm not viewing this as "us/them" or "have/have not" --- I feel for areas that currently have nothing (for the record, I don't live in the stretch where the boardwalk remains --- where I live, we've got nothing but chain link fence barring all access to the beach for 10 blocks or so).  That said, I've enjoyed the stretch of intact boardwalk as have many others.  To take it with no plans of anything constructed there until Spring 2016 seems absurd.  I'll ride my bike; I'll find my beach access.  I'm not thinking of myself, but the runners, people with strollers, elderly and those in wheelchairs, surfers & others who I see up there on a daily basis, able to get some fresh air, view the ocean, get where they're going.  It'd be nice to have something besides chain link fence -- anywhere -- this winter (especially if leaving that boardwalk intact until Spring isn't going to impact the timeline all that much in the end).  I'm sure most of us can agree on that. 


    Are you suggesting that they complete something, like the section from B86th to B96th, and THEN demo this section of boardwalk?  Are you anticipating the city using common sense (which by the way, isn't all that common)?  What have you been smoking?   :o
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #16 on: November 17, 2014, 05:02:51 PM »
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  • Spoke to someone in the know with the construction side....

    the thought goes IF they are able to complete the phase 1 of the project (Rippers to Caracas) the demo of the other part now would allow them to begin on phase 2 immediately.

    Also, if they don't do it now they're worried about a work halt due to plovers thus delaying further.


    Before you get all crazy on me -- I didn't say I'm happy with this. I'm just trying to give some more info from another perspective.
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #17 on: November 17, 2014, 07:28:56 PM »
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  • Spoke to someone in the know with the construction side....

    the thought goes IF they are able to complete the phase 1 of the project (Rippers to Caracas) the demo of the other part now would allow them to begin on phase 2 immediately.

    Also, if they don't do it now they're worried about a work halt due to plovers thus delaying further.

    Before you get all crazy on me -- I didn't say I'm happy with this. I'm just trying to give some more info from another perspective.
    Not getting crazy at all.  The area in question is 86th-73rd, so to my knowledge, no plover concerns there.  If construction guys have a different and final story -- that's welcome & wonderful news -- but according to Parks executives and what's been formally relayed by SKANSKA, timelines on construction & completion have not been moved earlier, only demolition.
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 03:49:04 PM »
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  • Spoke to someone in the know with the construction side....

    the thought goes IF they are able to complete the phase 1 of the project (Rippers to Caracas) the demo of the other part now would allow them to begin on phase 2 immediately.

    Also, if they don't do it now they're worried about a work halt due to plovers thus delaying further.


    Before you get all crazy on me -- I didn't say I'm happy with this. I'm just trying to give some more info from another perspective.


    Phase 2 is to the west of Phase 1.  The area to be demolished is east of Phase 1.  There are no plover nesting areas in either Phase 1 or 2. 

    Next excuse.

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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 11:42:34 AM »
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  • Hi all --- news of a meeting TONIGHT has circulated --- if interested in hearing about access / immediate plans for this area or voicing questions or concerns, see below:


    NYC Dept of Parks has changed the schedule of demolition for the existing Boardwalk from Beach 86th  Street to Beach 60th Street.  It was to have been in Spring 2015 just as the new boardwalk from Beach 86 Street to Beach 97 Street would open.


    Now Phase 4A  Beach 86 Street - Beach 60 Street will be demolished beginning NOVEMBER 2014. 


    NYC Parks Dept is holding a meeting to discuss the demolition and rebuild and how it will effect our neighborhood.


    The meeting is on:


    MONDAY - NOVEMBER 24
    7:00 pm
    Knights of Columbus Hall
    333 Beach 90 Street


    This is short notice but if you are concerned about this new schedule and how it will effect you, come to this important meeting.
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #20 on: November 25, 2014, 08:24:17 AM »
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  • any new news from the meeting last night?
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #21 on: November 25, 2014, 10:00:38 AM »
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  • B84-B70 (and points east) will be enclosed by construction fence after Thanksgiving.  Heavy work will happen from beach side.  The only new info seemed to be that playgrounds in 80s are not expected to be accessible (indicated previously that recreation areas north of boardwalk wouldn't be impacted in this phase).  2-3 beach access points when construction allows.  Target completion: Spring 2016.
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #22 on: November 25, 2014, 12:26:40 PM »
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  • B84-B70 (and points east) will be enclosed by construction fence after Thanksgiving.  Heavy work will happen from beach side.  The only new info seemed to be that playgrounds in 80s are not expected to be accessible (indicated previously that recreation areas north of boardwalk wouldn't be impacted in this phase).  2-3 beach access points when construction allows.  Target completion: Spring 2016.
    Thank you for this update, I didn't see what you posted about the meeting until right now, so I appreciate that you went.
    This is so depressing. I understand they have to get their work done in the way that seems efficient, but this is the last bit of public walkway and it gets used even in the off season. We were just playing there, the playground, and on the beach over the weekend...
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #23 on: December 18, 2014, 01:25:28 PM »
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  • just a minor (positive) update -- seems plans have adjusted so playgrounds in 80s will remain largely accessible (areas nearest boardwalk ie: swings will be enclosed --- but much of the other play equipment seems like it'll stay available).  Hopefully welcome news for parents, caretakers & kids -- I'm happy for anything there for the community to safely use & enjoy for recreation in all the months ahead.  (of course, who knows how nice it'll be to play in that area once construction starts - but hopefully there will be 'quiet' times to enjoy)
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #24 on: December 18, 2014, 02:52:10 PM »
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  • just a minor (positive) update -- seems plans have adjusted so playgrounds in 80s will remain largely accessible (areas nearest boardwalk ie: swings will be enclosed --- but much of the other play equipment seems like it'll stay available).  Hopefully welcome news for parents, caretakers & kids -- I'm happy for anything there for the community to safely use & enjoy for recreation in all the months ahead.  (of course, who knows how nice it'll be to play in that area once construction starts - but hopefully there will be 'quiet' times to enjoy)


    Minor good news is better than no good news, I guess. It's just distressing that the whole process has taken so long. In Long Beach, a portion of the boardwalk was reopened in 7 months, and it was re-opened in it's entirety in 11 - but for the entire time it was down, it felt like the heart had been ripped from the community, and it felt SO good when it was back. It feels like that painful, open wound is still there with Rock every time I'm there.  :-\
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #25 on: December 19, 2014, 12:56:01 PM »
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  • Saw them putting in fence post up and down the main surf beaches already..
    Thats going to be a long long paddle around to get to some jettys..


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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #26 on: December 19, 2014, 01:00:24 PM »
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  • just a minor (positive) update -- seems plans have adjusted so playgrounds in 80s will remain largely accessible (areas nearest boardwalk ie: swings will be enclosed --- but much of the other play equipment seems like it'll stay available).  Hopefully welcome news for parents, caretakers & kids -- I'm happy for anything there for the community to safely use & enjoy for recreation in all the months ahead.  (of course, who knows how nice it'll be to play in that area once construction starts - but hopefully there will be 'quiet' times to enjoy)


    The boardwalk news really didn't bother me.  On the other hand, the playground news was a punch in the gut. The little guy lives there in the summer.  I'm really glad to read this.  Boys love tractors, so I'm not so worried about the construction:)
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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #27 on: December 19, 2014, 02:00:07 PM »
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  • I ran down there this AM, it looks like the fences will cut off the swingsets a bit, and then run parallel along the beach, but not out to the water.  We should still be able to walk down the beach fine.   As much as I understand construction and disruption, hearing that they were tearing out this section before the construction of the other felt like a kick in the gut.  It would go a long way if they would start dropping the boardwalk deck before they start the demo.... :(

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    Re: So Long Boardwalk
    « Reply #28 on: December 22, 2014, 12:42:12 PM »
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  • Well, I guess that gets me out of pushing bb on the swing :/
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