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Offline damian

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Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2014, 06:59:13 PM »
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  • 2 thoughts


    Length along the bottom curve (as many shapers are going to measure based on a flat template) is different then point to point.  You'll lose at least an inch on a short fishy board.  More rocker and more overall length and the difference will be greater. 


    2nd:
    If you really liked what Mike shaped for you, a positive review would have been much more effective.  If you knew what went into shaping and glassing a board, not to mention the 20 emails that probably went back and forth to the facilitate the transaction, all for meager profits given the mass produced competition, you might cut Mark some slack, even if he didn't soften the experience enough for your millennialist expectations. 

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #16 on: July 17, 2014, 09:04:25 PM »
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  • Wow, what a first post.

    Mike and Mark both are quality craftsmen, I have both shapers boards in my quiver and I have no complaints in dealing with either of them. In fakt (pun lol)  I just picked up a custom from Petro last weekend and the thing is an absolute beauty, not to mention how well it works out in the swell. Mark communicated well through text/email and in person he is a cool dude to chat with as well- never awkward or smug....and same for Mike. I've been at his shop just kicking back talking about boards and other crap... he is a cool dude. And while we're at is, Tommy Bunger is a cool dude too... they're all cool dudes... but I dont know about you man..coming on here in public to bash.. I understand there was a misunderstanding but leave it at that. Reminds me of a quote that went along the lines of...."the thing about words is once they are spoken they can only be forgiven, not forgotten."

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #17 on: July 17, 2014, 10:34:01 PM »
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  • ^ this!!

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #18 on: July 18, 2014, 12:59:12 PM »
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  • ridiculous first post...


    petro is an amazing craftsman and great surfer and these things clearly manifest themselves in the boards he shapes


    there's a reason he's currently working with pioneering new york shaper bob hawkins and has previously worked with people such as andrew kidman (original poster should look those two up, because he/she probably haven't heard of either person)


    petro's glass work and ding repair is very good and recently he's been experimenting with a wide range of diverse shapes of varying length, as well as perfecting his resin tint and spray color work, not to mention foiling his own fins


    sounds like there's more to the story; regardless of what may or may not have gone wrong, there's a way to voice dissatisfaction and criticism constructively, and this isn't the way...


    excellent glasswork and color tint on the ANK / falcone / faktion collaboration:






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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #19 on: July 18, 2014, 01:12:11 PM »
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  • "Didn't even write the dimensions on the bottom of the board (yes, a custom board)"

    you wouldn't like a board from skip frye, then...or steve lis...or rich pavel

    many shapers don't write the numbers on the board...dollars to donuts, most surfers are not equipped to notice small variations in dimensions and wouldn't notice anyway

    hakman and brewer discuss tail measurements:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=dbFe4HqN8v0C&pg=PA117&dq=hakman+brewer+%22the+tail+seems+a+little+bit+pulled+in%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=51TJU5q2Fo2syAT8nYHgDw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=hakman%20brewer%20%22the%20tail%20seems%20a%20little%20bit%20pulled%20in%22&f=false


    ha ha

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #20 on: July 18, 2014, 03:53:31 PM »
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  • What a tool. Petro rocks. Great shaper and awesome human. He built me this awesomeness:
    I need the sea because it teaches me.

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 03:53:56 PM »
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  • FYI:

    I need the sea because it teaches me.

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 03:56:13 PM »
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  • Open the above in Instagram. Some real gems in there in the extended responses.
    I need the sea because it teaches me.

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 05:06:57 PM »
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  • 80/20 rule in full effect here.

    80% of you problems will be generated by 20% of your clients in any business.  Nothing you can do about it, Petro.  Just keep making kickass boards.
    "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" -Margaret Thatcher

    No, I am not a smart ass.......I am a skilled, trained professional in pointing out the obvious and I speak fluent sarcasm.


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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 06:35:13 PM »
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  • Mmmmm. Dream board. Yummy.


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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #26 on: July 19, 2014, 08:13:02 AM »
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  • Baaaahhaahahhha  this is hilarious.... There is definately another side to the story but Im not even go into it. The old Petro would give you such a verbal assault you probably wouldn't ever touch a surfboard again. Im a little older calmer and wiser these days and don't let anything like this bother me. It's actually kind of funny to me. Just want to thank everyone on this forum for backing me up and to everyone that has supported me over the years.  Lets just leave it at this " if you know then you know" .
    Support your local shaper....

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #27 on: July 19, 2014, 09:35:29 AM »
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  • There U go.... Now I'm curious though :)
    Hey mark those fins on your board you've been riding lately U make them?

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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #28 on: July 19, 2014, 11:27:32 AM »
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  • Baaaahhaahahhha  this is hilarious.... There is definately another side to the story but Im not even go into it. The old Petro would give you such a verbal assault you probably wouldn't ever touch a surfboard again. Im a little older calmer and wiser these days and don't let anything like this bother me. It's actually kind of funny to me. Just want to thank everyone on this forum for backing me up and to everyone that has supported me over the years.  Lets just leave it at this " if you know then you know" .


    Goodonya, Mark. Your track record speaks for itself - no reason to take any road but the high road.
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    Re: Personal Review: Faktion Surfboards vs Natures Shapes
    « Reply #29 on: July 19, 2014, 12:25:04 PM »
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  • Referring to a hand shaped, custom board as "super simple" tells everyone on here more about your knowledge of surfboards and the process of making them, than everything you said before it does about a guy who seems to have a pretty solid reputation. If it was a super simple shape, why didn't you just go ahead and make it yourself? Did you talk to him through the process?? How did you place the order??? Did you give him specific dimensions from which he was to not deviate, or did you tell him a basic shape you wanted, your skill level and size???? Everyone's blasting you and for good reason; you're a newb to a community of guys who obviously hold in high regard the shaper you trashed in a public forum. It sucks that your experience was bad, but here's a piece of advice for you in the future; unless you're Slater, you'll do much better to tell your shaper a basic shape you're looking for, how you want it to perform, what your style of surfing is, and your size, than saying "I want these specific dimensions.".


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