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Define local
« on: May 16, 2014, 07:40:52 AM »
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  • What is a local?  Since a very, very, very small percentage of us are born were we surf, what is the common guideline for being a "local", surf the spot 5 or 10 times and at what what point do locals have rights or privileges over others.  If a newbie drops in on a local it is wrong yet when a local drops in on a newbie is it a privilege? 


    I have ridden waves from on end of this rock to the rock and now I am a local at my spot but is my spot the place I surfed last week or the new break 1/2 mile down the road or the other one in the other direction, does my localism shift with the sandbar? 




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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 08:54:19 AM »
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  • I don't know what local is but I walk or bike to where I surf for the past decade, I pay taxes to upkeep my community, and I treat my fellow surfers w respect regardless of origination. I hoot at strangers when they get good rides, I give up waves for people, and I give hellos to friendly faces. I'm pretty sure local doesn't matter in my head, I just think you shouldn't be a dick and you'll get your share. 


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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 08:59:03 AM »
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  • I'm interested to see what the response is.


    I consider myself a local at the jetty at the end of my street.  There's about 15 people I recognize consistently there and 10 of them drive from outside of LB.


    Local or not, anyone who drops in on purpose is going to get an earful.  I don't do it to you, don't do it to me.

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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 09:07:57 AM »
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  • I consider myself a local at the jetty at the end of my street.  There's about 15 people I recognize consistently there and 10 of them drive from outside of LB.


    I'm interested to see what the responses are too.  I'm sure there's a core group of guys who grew up in LB, and surf together, and all know each other.  I surf with my friends I grew up with, but we're all transplants so I'm not sure if we're like second tier local?


    Does local give you access to all of LB, if that's where we are discussing, or do you have to be local to your "jetty".  There's blocks I don't surf because of the attitude factor, but otherwise, I pop on my bike, and surf where it's best, or let the current take me where it may.

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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 10:01:23 AM »
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  • It's a spectrum. In Rock I think it's a bit like:

    You've grown up there and surfed forever, you moved there and spent a few years establishing yourself in the community year-round and surf in the winter, you don't live there but you're out nearly every surfable day including winter (except probably a bit less  given the distance), then warm water surfers who are there most day - the more presence you have in the community the better, and the rest are on foamies or sporting a neckbeard with ther $2,000 custom board from Saturday's.
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 12:16:38 PM »
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  • Start here...the rest of us are tourists


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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 12:25:50 PM »
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  • And at the bottom of that spectrum are Canadians.

    It's a spectrum. In Rock I think it's a bit like:

    You've grown up there and surfed forever, you moved there and spent a few years establishing yourself in the community year-round and surf in the winter, you don't live there but you're out nearly every surfable day including winter (except probably a bit less  given the distance), then warm water surfers who are there most day - the more presence you have in the community the better, and the rest are on foamies or sporting a neckbeard with ther $2,000 custom board from Saturday's.

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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 02:14:47 PM »
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  • if you eat your slice of pizza with a fork and knife, I am pretty sure your not a local.
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 03:43:48 PM »
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  • Tattoo sleeve, Asian girlfriend, French bulldog all add up to local status
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
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  • The problem with the whole "I'm a local, who the hell are you?" mentality is that it stinks to holy hell of some sort of entitlement. And the fact is that the only thing any of us are actually entitled to is common courtesy.


    Here's my deal: If someone is lined up for a wave, I'm backing off - I don't care if the person just arrived from Mars. If I'm lined up, I would ask and expect the same. If I am at a regular spot or a spot I have never been to before, I try and be conscious not to be a wave hog. If someone else I've never seen before or someone I see every single time is there, I would expect the same.
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 04:18:33 PM »
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  • The problem with the whole "I'm a local, who the hell are you?" mentality is that it stinks to holy hell of some sort of entitlement. And the fact is that the only thing any of us are actually entitled to is common courtesy.


    Here's my deal: If someone is lined up for a wave, I'm backing off - I don't care if the person just arrived from Mars. If I'm lined up, I would ask and expect the same. If I am at a regular spot or a spot I have never been to before, I try and be conscious not to be a wave hog. If someone else I've never seen before or someone I see every single time is there, I would expect the same.


    ahh, capt goodvibes.  Insert any marquee break on any coastline in the world and your philosophy would result in you catching not a single wave during a session, and no Im not happy that is the way it is.  But your opinion chokes of optimism bordering on naivety and you know that to be true.  brown trout take LB premier wave which is by no means a marquee spot and I know if I am deeper than surfer X who has spent a lifetime at the peak, a mere 10 more years than me and keeping in mind I was born in LB, I know Im going to get stuffed by Mr surfer X, 9 out of 10 times.  In other spots in the world i would be stuffed 10/10 times. 

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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 04:29:56 PM »
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  • if you eat your slice of pizza with a fork and knife, I am pretty sure your not a local.
    If you order a brazilian burrito at the Dough Hut, yep, probably not a local.
    If you go to Swingbellys for Cosmos and fish tacos, again, probably not a local.
    If your wearing a springsuit, booties, and your name is not Steve White, Im going to go out on a limb and guess, your not a local.
    If you go to Gino's for the Ice Cream, wtf, your not a local.
    « Last Edit: May 16, 2014, 06:05:59 PM by SeaCliff »
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 05:23:41 PM »
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  • The problem with the whole "I'm a local, who the hell are you?" mentality is that it stinks to holy hell of some sort of entitlement. And the fact is that the only thing any of us are actually entitled to is common courtesy.


    Here's my deal: If someone is lined up for a wave, I'm backing off - I don't care if the person just arrived from Mars. If I'm lined up, I would ask and expect the same. If I am at a regular spot or a spot I have never been to before, I try and be conscious not to be a wave hog. If someone else I've never seen before or someone I see every single time is there, I would expect the same.


    ahh, capt goodvibes.  Insert any marquee break on any coastline in the world and your philosophy would result in you catching not a single wave during a session, and no Im not happy that is the way it is.  But your opinion chokes of optimism bordering on naivety and you know that to be true.  brown trout take LB premier wave which is by no means a marquee spot and I know if I am deeper than surfer X who has spent a lifetime at the peak, a mere 10 more years than me and keeping in mind I was born in LB, I know Im going to get stuffed by Mr surfer X, 9 out of 10 times.  In other spots in the world i would be stuffed 10/10 times. 




    Yes - but my point is that while every single word of the scenario you describe is true, it has nothing to do with localism - it has everything to do with douchebaggery. Perhaps the real problem is that there's too many people that have been in this game long enough to know the rules, but somehow feel that because they've been in the game for so long at "their" spot, they are now somehow above the rules -  or more simply put: The rules simply no longer apply to them, but only to the other "less entitled" masses who dared attempt to surf "their" wave.


    And btw, you're right on your other point as well - I never effing get a friggin wave when I travel.  ::) >:(
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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 05:29:22 PM »
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  • "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" -Margaret Thatcher

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    Re: Define local
    « Reply #14 on: May 16, 2014, 06:05:30 PM »
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  • if you eat your slice of pizza with a fork and knife, I am pretty sure your not a local.
    If you order a brazilian burrito at the Dough Hut, yep, probably not a local.
    If you go to Swingbellys for Cosmos and fish tacos, again, probably not a local.
    If your wearing a springsuit, booties, and your name is not Steve White, Im going to go out on a limb and guess, your not a local.
    If you go to Gino's for the Ice Cream, wtf, your not a local.



    Yep..pretty much dead on.
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