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Curious phenomenon
« on: May 24, 2012, 09:13:30 AM »
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  • Went to my local skate shop the other day after I shaped a couple cruiser boards for myself and a buddy.  I was buying wheels and bearings and talking with the shop owner about getting back into skating after years off. He said something that made me think a lot about the differences between surfing and skating, in terms of opinions regarding us older people (I'm in my early 40s) and either starting or getting back into shredding waves/concrete.  I told him I hadn't skated in a long while but I was a huge skate nerd earlier in life, and he was just so incredibly excited to have me start again.  It was really, really refreshing and nice and made me want to skate even more. 

    I couldn't help but compare this to some of the sentiment I've seen on here and in the lineup about such a move surf-wise.  Don't get me wrong--I understand the differences between endless concrete and limited waves.  I know that kooks in the water are a bigger liability than on land.  I know that if I brought my cruiser board to skate a pool or a bowl somewhere I'd probably get scorned by some people.  So I guess I'm just wondering... is the hate directed at everyone of a certain age who wants to start surfing?  Or, is it a case-by-case kind of deal, depending on lots of other variables like conduct and respect and attitude?  Seems to me that everyone deserves a fair shake and an open mind, until they prove that they don't deserve a fair shake and an open mind. 

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 09:54:58 AM »
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  • Having an open mind about adult beginners will earn you a car ride to Park Slope Methodist with Krut while blood squishes out of your face.
     
    So heavy you can't even pick it up.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 09:59:15 AM »
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  • Waves are a much more limited resources, and beginners get in the way more often out in the surf.


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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 10:05:13 AM »
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  • Having an open mind about adult beginners will earn you a car ride to Park Slope Methodist with Krut while blood squishes out of your face.

    Oh damn.  Fair enough.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 10:17:23 AM »
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  • "  Don't get me wrong--I understand the differences between endless concrete and limited waves.  I know that kooks in the water are a bigger liability than on land.  "

    Not so sure about that. Sure water can make you drown, but I've seen people drop in on each other and collide in neck breaking ways at at one particular NYC skatepark... They probably sure wish they were in water at that moment in time. Need I mention some of those bike terds that lurk Rockaway/ Bay Ridge park?
    "Waves are the ultimate illusion. They come out of nowhere, instantaneously materialize and just as quickly they break and vanish. Chasing after such fleeting mirages is a complete waste of time. That is what I chose to do with my life." Dora

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 01:11:22 PM »
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  • Well of course he was excited ....
    He owns a skate shop and your buying stuff...

    That said
    My answer to all my friends when they say I want to learn to surf..
    Ok show up at my house in Rock no later the 5.15 am and we will start...
    No takers? Really?

    Skateing is non committal
    Thus it's popularity among slackers, old folks and me.
    ..Whore it to death then sell the corpse on Craigslist... (used to be Ebay but eff Ebay and Paypal)

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 02:15:52 PM »
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  • Well of course he was excited ....
    He owns a skate shop and your buying stuff...

    That said
    My answer to all my friends when they say I want to learn to surf..
    Ok show up at my house in Rock no later the 5.15 am and we will start...
    No takers? Really?

    Skateing is non committal
    Thus it's popularity among slackers, old folks and me.
    An offer like that doesn't scare me.  I would have shown up.  But then again, I'm already surfing so that implies I'm already a little off.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 04:07:13 PM »
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  • Would not go as far as to generalize skaters as slackers, many are far from it. Talk to a real dedicated pool skater and you'll realize your talking to one of the hardest working individuals you might ever meet. I mean show up at a good pool in the middle of the winter with all the water frozen and see homeboy chopping the ice up and slowly melting it with fire so he and friends can skate it. I just think the two sports have gone in complete opposite spectrum's as far as attitude. You can be passionate about what you do without the attitude.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 04:12:30 PM »
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  • Would not go as far as to generalize skaters as slackers, many are far from it. Talk to a real dedicated pool skater and you'll realize your talking to one of the hardest working individuals you might ever meet. I mean show up at a good pool in the middle of the winter with all the water frozen and see homeboy chopping the ice up and slowly melting it with fire so he and friends can skate it. I just think the two sports have gone in complete opposite spectrum's as far as attitude. You can be passionate about what you do without the attitude.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 06:09:25 PM »
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  • You can be passionate about what you do without the attitude.

    Thank you.  Sums it up.

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    Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #10 on: May 24, 2012, 06:19:54 PM »
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  • My beach. My chicks. My waves. Go home.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 06:31:35 PM »
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  • My beach. My chicks. My waves. Go home.


    your beach. your waves. never your chicks. unless by chicks, you mean peeps.


    "You miss the point if you surf to escape."

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 07:34:33 PM »
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  • My beach. My chicks. My waves. Go home.
    That is a great song.

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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 10:47:08 PM »
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  • Waves are a much more limited resources, and beginners get in the way more often out in the surf.



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    Re: Curious phenomenon
    « Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 11:12:41 PM »
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  • I realize my post was more then a bit snotty..
    But with the exception of some obscure pool skaters and Rodney Mullen

    You can still go to any skate park in the NYC area and not have anyone show up before 10.30.

    But we are off subject
    Yes older adult skaters ( me) are actually happy to have other skaters their age around.
    Something to watch while I stand there wheezing..

    Other then close friends and even then well you know ... Doesn't apply to surfing.
    ..Whore it to death then sell the corpse on Craigslist... (used to be Ebay but eff Ebay and Paypal)