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Advice on perfect NJ board
« on: June 15, 2015, 11:37:19 PM »
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  • Whats your favorite board for those heavy Jersey days, especially interested if your a goofy footer or have thoughts on surfing backside in these conditions?
     
    I'm often late on the drops and when I do get in clean, I'm not getting the speed needed.  Obviously most of this is my surfing and not the boards fault.  But your recommendations would be appreciated.


    I've tried a local shapers 6.4 step up model, as well as a JS 6.1 Electro which I preferred.


    6.2, 190lbs, if you care.
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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 07:31:19 AM »
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  • I don't know your fitness, or your age but assuming your above average fitness and 30, intermediate surfer, FireWire says you should be on a 37L board in decent surf. That JS is barely pushing 30L. I think you're just under volumed but again. Just a guess. I'm riding 36L boards and I'm a little more than 170 pounds. Borrow a board from someone w more volume and you'll probably get in earlier and get ahead of the sections.




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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 10:10:23 AM »
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  • Here's the Rusty guide:

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #3 on: June 16, 2015, 10:49:08 AM »
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  • I don't know your fitness, or your age but assuming your above average fitness and 30, intermediate surfer, FireWire says you should be on a 37L board in decent surf. That JS is barely pushing 30L. I think you're just under volumed but again. Just a guess. I'm riding 36L boards and I'm a little more than 170 pounds. Borrow a board from someone w more volume and you'll probably get in earlier and get ahead of the sections.




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    Really interesting.
    37L sounds like an awful lot of board to me, but then again I'm not 6'2" 190.  ::)


    Back to business, though. You might also want to consider a quad setup for those heavy nor'easter kind of days when getting in early and down the line become more critical. The more I read and watch, the more I'm convinced that quads may be just slightly faster than thrusters, and may allow you that fraction that you're looking for. Look at it this way, you can always stall into the barrel if you're outrunning it, but you don't have a gas peddle to step on if you're behind it!
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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #4 on: June 16, 2015, 11:25:21 AM »
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  • It's probably true that I'm a little under gunned.  But what I'm more curious about is what your favorite manufacture and model is for these waves.  I'm looking to finally buy a new board and wanted some suggestions.
    Thanks



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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 11:35:37 AM »
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  • It's probably true that I'm a little under gunned.  But what I'm more curious about is what your favorite manufacture and model is for these waves.  I'm looking to finally buy a new board and wanted some suggestions.
    Thanks


    I think that's putting the cart before the horse. Have to isolate/identify what the issue is and what setup can help fix it before naming brands and models.

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 05:44:51 PM »
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  • stretch 2x4 with a 5 fin set up, got me out of a lot of beatdowns.

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 12:18:34 AM »
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  • Take the FireWire guide and add 10 liters
    Shitty waves = +10
    Backside =+ 10
    Weekend crowd =+10
    You get it
    ..Whore it to death then sell the corpse on Craigslist... (used to be Ebay but eff Ebay and Paypal)

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 08:20:28 AM »
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  • You need more volume.   Get as much volume as you can duckdive regularly in a decent swell.  If you are looking at pro potato chip boards it's hard to believe this is true, but it is.  Get a bigger board and see how it works, then you can back down in size to find the sweet spot.

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 09:22:50 AM »
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  • Really interesting.
    37L sounds like an awful lot of board to me, but then again I'm not 6'2" 190.  ::)

    Back to business, though. You might also want to consider a quad setup for those heavy nor'easter kind of days when getting in early and down the line become more critical. The more I read and watch, the more I'm convinced that quads may be just slightly faster than thrusters, and may allow you that fraction that you're looking for. Look at it this way, you can always stall into the barrel if you're outrunning it, but you don't have a gas peddle to step on if you're behind it!


    37L does sound like a lot, and most recently I sold off a board that was in the 30L range (which I could make work for me) and replaced it with something that's 36L and like I said I'm like 170 lbs.  It is dramatically easier to paddle, quicker to catch waves, and at the end of the day I'm having more fun.  Factor in that I'm 170 with no wetsuit on, especially no winter suit which is wicked heavy.  Then factor in that when FireWire says "weak waves", and for the most part they're talking about what we consider "good waves".  All these things just keep making me want to push my volume up, but think I'm at the sweet spot at ~36L and the OP is 20 pounds heavier than me.  He has to up the volume in my opinion.

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #10 on: June 17, 2015, 09:28:50 AM »
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  • Anderson Evolver is a one board quiver.


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    So heavy you can't even pick it up.

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 03:39:24 PM »
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  • you need to focus on the nose profile -- get that volume under your chest -- not the total volume per se, hook up with a shaper who understands NJ conditions
    i.e. a local NJ shaper. Tom Eadon, Chris Chaize, Paul Baymore, Brian Wynne come to mind. Plus any # of backyard shapers who know what they're doing. 

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    Re: Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #12 on: June 18, 2015, 05:47:32 PM »
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  • Everyone is different I guess.. Firewire calculator is pretty much right on for me... Ride a 27.5L board at 160 ish
    as my regular board... Go up a couple liters for my waist and under board.. Lower volume boards capture the energy of the wave better imo add opposed to it passing under you..  Lotta different factors besides volume of course
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    Advice on perfect NJ board
    « Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 07:28:44 PM »
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  • I think that what Kdropin is saying at the end quite is valuable. Add in what BoB said about plan shape and sprinkle in rocker dialogue and there you have it. So much to consider.

    Oh and throw in rail shape. I don't like chubby rails for those conditions.  They don't cut into the wave as nicely.