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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 11:06:10 AM »

ya got to think "adventure" Mr. Onassis  Wink

PR is a winter wonderland in my book--I'd rather be far away.

we'll get something from the B for sure.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2008, 08:41:13 PM »

Wow, this is unreal. If the materializes wee are looking at a classic hurricane swell, as in 5 days of solid surf....


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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 12:43:29 AM »

I think PR is the place to be in case this one fades.

I doubt it

winds wouldn't be right & not as much fetch in that quadrant - sure, they'll get something, but nothing like what the entire east coast USA could get if she BEHAVES

Still, I say as an EX-avid weatherman, it is what it is when you check it out, but just have your wits that it could get better later, to me that's the only reason for knowing for that day or part of the next....too many variables in this squared off "axis of evil" - known as NY-NJ to worry about 4 or 5 days out - fvck me! the local weathermen are wrong 80% of the time, that can't even tell you it's going to rain when it fvcking already is!!!!!!! what a fvcking bunch of losers!!!!

I tell you what Mr Weatherman, how about i call you up & just tell you what it's doing in my hood like the old days, this way you've got a better chance at being correct  -  pfffttt!!!!

what a bunch of stooges
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2008, 12:45:48 AM »

nice I'll be back in town just in time
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2008, 07:02:56 AM »



TROPICAL STORM BERTHA DISCUSSION NUMBER  13
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL022008
500 AM EDT SUN JUL 06 2008

NOT MANY CHANGES TO REPORT WITH BERTHA THIS MORNING. THE CYCLONE
CONTINUES TO MOVE QUICKLY WESTWARD ALONG A HEADING OF ABOUT 280/19
TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE OBJECTIVE GUIDANCE IS IN
VERY GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH ABOUT 48 HOURS ON A GENERAL
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION...AND A GRADUAL SLOWING OF THE FORWARD
SPEED AS HEIGHTS BUILD TO THE NORTHWEST OF BERTHA OVER THE
SUBTROPICAL WESTERN ATLANTIC. THE MODELS STILL DIVERGE
SIGNIFICANTLY AT DAYS 3 THROUGH 5...BUT THEY HAVE GENERALLY COME
INTO A LITTLE BETTER AGREEMENT ON A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST BY
THEN...ALTHOUGH AT A FORWARD SPEED OF ABOUT HALF OF BERTHA'S
CURRENT MOTION. THE OUTLIER IS THE HWRF THAT FORECASTS A MUCH
SOONER TURN TOWARD THE NORTH ALONG ABOUT 58W. NONE OF THE
MODELS...HOWEVER...FORECAST BERTHA TO REACH 30 DEGREES NORTH
LATITUDE WITHIN FIVE DAYS. WHILE THE RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN
ATLANTIC IS FORECAST TO BE MUCH WEAKER BY THE END OF THE FIVE-DAY
FORECAST PERIOD...THE MODELS DO NOT DEPICT A HIGH-AMPLITUDE TROUGH
THAT WOULD ACCELERATE BERTHA INTO THE MIDDLE LATITUDES. SO IT IS
FAR TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE IF OR WHEN BERTHA WILL RECURVE. THE NEW
OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT...TOWARD
BUT NOT AS FAR EAST AS THE CONSENSUS.

THE WATERS BENEATH BERTHA ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT 26 CELSIUS AND
CONTINUE TO GET WARMER AS THE CYCLONE PROCEEDS WESTWARD...AND BY 48
HOURS FROM NOW THEY SHOULD BE APPROACHING 28 CELSIUS.  VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR SHOULD NOT STRENGTHEN DURING THIS PERIOD...SO GRADUAL
STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST IN LINE WITH NEARLY ALL OF THE OBJECTIVE
INTENSITY GUIDANCE...AND BERTHA COULD BE A HURRICANE IN A COUPLE OF
DAYS.  BEYOND THAT TIME...THE WATERS WILL BE PLENTY WARM...SO THE
DETERMINING FACTOR ON THE INTENSITY OF BERTHA WILL PROBABLY BE WIND
SHEAR.  THE UPPER-LEVEL PATTERN FORECAST BY THE MODELS AT DAYS 3
THROUGH 5 IS COMPLEX...AND IT IS HARD TO DETERMINE JUST HOW MUCH
SHEAR WILL BE AFFECTING BERTHA DURING THAT PERIOD.  DESPITE TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT A MODEST INCREASE IN SHEAR BASED ON THE GFS MODEL WIND
FIELDS...THE SHIPS AND LGEM FORECAST 70-75 KT AT 72-120 HOURS...SO
THE NEW OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST PEAKS AT 70 KT...A LITTLE
HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.  GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE
ATMOSPHERIC PATTERN AT THOSE LONG RANGES...HOWEVER...THIS IS NOT A
HIGH CONFIDENCE INTENSITY FORECAST.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL      06/0900Z 17.3N  43.2W    45 KT
 12HR VT     06/1800Z 17.9N  46.1W    50 KT
 24HR VT     07/0600Z 18.7N  49.5W    55 KT
 36HR VT     07/1800Z 19.6N  52.5W    60 KT
 48HR VT     08/0600Z 20.4N  55.1W    65 KT
 72HR VT     09/0600Z 22.5N  60.0W    70 KT
 96HR VT     10/0600Z 24.5N  64.0W    70 KT
120HR VT     11/0600Z 27.0N  67.5W    70 KT


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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2008, 07:58:48 AM »

I think PR is the place to be in case this one fades.

I doubt it

Still, I say as an EX-avid weatherman, it is what it is when you check it out, but just have your wits that it could get better later, to me that's the only reason for knowing for that day or part of the next....too many variables in this squared off "axis of evil" - known as NY-NJ to worry about 4 or 5 days out - fvck me! the local weathermen are wrong 80% of the time, that can't even tell you it's going to rain when it fvcking already is!!!!!!! what a fvcking bunch of losers!!!!

I tell you what Mr Weatherman, how about i call you up & just tell you what it's doing in my hood like the old days, this way you've got a better chance at being correct  -  pfffttt!!!!

what a bunch of stooges

now now let's be nice...i'm sure your watching the weather posers like Sammy Champion or others....you need to watch News 12 LI...as local as local news and weather gets!!!
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 09:15:28 AM »

think she's gonna blow?
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 10:33:20 AM »

think she's gonna blow?
well the latest report says she might be blowing hard  Wink:

THE WATERS BENEATH BERTHA ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT 26 CELSIUS AND
CONTINUE TO GET WARMER AS THE CYCLONE PROCEEDS WESTWARD...AND BY 48
HOURS FROM NOW THEY SHOULD BE APPROACHING 28 CELSIUS.  VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR SHOULD NOT STRENGTHEN DURING THIS PERIOD...SO GRADUAL
STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST IN LINE WITH NEARLY ALL OF THE OBJECTIVE
INTENSITY GUIDANCE...AND BERTHA COULD BE A HURRICANE IN A COUPLE OF
DAYS.  BEYOND THAT TIME...THE WATERS WILL BE PLENTY WARM
...SO THE
DETERMINING FACTOR ON THE INTENSITY OF BERTHA WILL PROBABLY BE WIND
SHEAR.  THE UPPER-LEVEL PATTERN FORECAST BY THE MODELS AT DAYS 3
THROUGH 5 IS COMPLEX...AND IT IS HARD TO DETERMINE JUST HOW MUCH
SHEAR WILL BE AFFECTING BERTHA DURING THAT PERIOD.  DESPITE TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT A MODEST INCREASE IN SHEAR BASED ON THE GFS MODEL WIND
FIELDS...THE SHIPS AND LGEM FORECAST 70-75 KT AT 72-120 HOURS...SO
THE NEW OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST PEAKS AT 70 KT...A LITTLE
HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.  GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE
ATMOSPHERIC PATTERN AT THOSE LONG RANGES...HOWEVER...THIS IS NOT A
HIGH CONFIDENCE INTENSITY FORECAST
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2008, 03:13:45 PM »

now now let's be nice...i'm sure your watching the weather posers like Sammy Champion or others....you need to watch News 12 LI...as local as local news and weather gets!!!

yes Mr Duke, it's the "Sam Champion's" of the weather elite that I throw my bucket & shovel at

we need an emoticon for a "beware, drunk post about to start"  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2008, 03:49:37 PM »

now now let's be nice...i'm sure your watching the weather posers like Sammy Champion or others....you need to watch News 12 LI...as local as local news and weather gets!!!

yes Mr Duke, it's the "Sam Champion's" of the weather elite that I throw my bucket & shovel at

we need an emoticon for a "beware, drunk post about to start"  Grin


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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 07:22:47 AM »

As of this morning:

THE FIRST OF THE 2008 ATLANTIC SEASON...WITH AN INTENSITY OF 65 KT.
WHILE A HURRICANE DOES NOT FORM EVERY YEAR IN JULY IN THE ATLANTIC
BASIN...IT HAS CERTAINLY HAPPENED BEFORE...INCLUDING IN 1996 WHEN
ANOTHER HURRICANE BERTHA FORMED...COINCIDENTALLY ALSO ON JULY 7.
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and the track shows it coming up the 65 W longitude which I'm not sure would be in our window of opportunity Angry
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2008, 07:44:30 AM »

As of this morning:

THE FIRST OF THE 2008 ATLANTIC SEASON...WITH AN INTENSITY OF 65 KT.
WHILE A HURRICANE DOES NOT FORM EVERY YEAR IN JULY IN THE ATLANTIC
BASIN...IT HAS CERTAINLY HAPPENED BEFORE...INCLUDING IN 1996 WHEN
ANOTHER HURRICANE BERTHA FORMED...COINCIDENTALLY ALSO ON JULY 7.
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and the track shows it coming up the 65 W longitude which I'm not sure would be in our window of opportunity Angry



65 West is definitly in our window. Fabien never went beyond 65 west.

What you do need though is a storm moving twords or at least paralell to us. As soon as it starts recurving our swell potential goes way way down.

The current intesity forcast is good, up to cat 2 while in our window. Either way it should be a large mature storm by then.
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2008, 08:45:22 AM »

...and the pre-stoke jitters begin....

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2008, 09:07:09 AM »

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