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Does P90X Work?
« on: June 22, 2010, 08:25:04 PM »
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  • Has anyone tried or know anyone who's tried P90X?

    They talk about it constantly on ESPN Radio, but man, they also endorse Taco Bell, so I'm a bit leery. The I read this on the MensHealth.com blog:

    http://blogs.menshealth.com/fit-coach/the-truth-about-p90x/2010/05/21/

    Each year, a handful of fitness fads explode onto the American scene.   And, each year, an equal number fizzle out in far less spectacular   fashion. But every so often, one sticks around, and for the last several   years running it has been P90X—a wildly popular home-based fitness   routine with a growing (and near fanatical) following among weekend   warriors and A-list celebs alike (Ewan McGregor, Ashton Kutcher, and   Donavan McNabb are among its devotees). It’s also one of the most   popular search terms on MensHealth.com. But if you’re reading   these words, you’ve found the only ones we’ve ever written about it.   Why? Because while P90X might be able to accomplish what it claims for   $120 (i.e., “transform you from regular to ripped in 90 days”), it’s   likely not the total-body fitness solution that most people are looking   for.


    If you watch late night television, you’ve seen the infomercials:   Fitness trainer Tony Horton and a handful of attractive models explain   that by constantly introducing new exercises and workouts—which run the   gambit from traditional strength sessions to Kenpo karate classes—you’ll   achieve a constant state of “muscular confusion.” The less your muscles   adapt, Horton explains, the faster they’ll grow.


    The idea of “muscular confusion” isn’t new. And unfortunately for   Horton and the folks at Beachbody—who also introduced the world to Hip   Hop Abs and the Turbo Jam workout—it’s not based on science. “It’s a   marketing term invented by Joe Weider [the creater of the Mr. Olympia   bodybuilding contest] back in the 1980s,” says Bill Hartman, C.S.C.S, a   strength coach in Indianapolis. “And it’s kind of counterproductive.”


    Here’s why: If muscles don’t adapt, they don’t grow. “The whole goal   of weightlifting to is to get an adaptation to occur,” says Hartman,   “and that requires multiple exposures to the same stimulus.”


    Unless you’re a beginner, doing something different every workout can   actually halt your progress if you’re trying to add lean mass. (If   you’ve never worked out before, just about any novel exercise stimulus   will trigger muscle growth.) “But if you’re already carrying a bit of   muscle, you probably won’t see the same sort of effect,” says Hartman.   “What you might see, however, is fat loss.”


    By constantly changing your workouts, you’re body will never become   efficient in the motor pattern of any one exercise, and the less   efficient you are, the greater the metabolic (fat burning) stimulus will   be. “So if you’re primary concern is weight loss, then there’s nothing   wrong with P90X,” says Hartman. “In fact, it might be a very good   program, because the Hollywood-style presentation will keep you   engaged.”


    Does all of this mean that you should never vary your workouts?   Certainly not. Variation is key to any good training program—as long as   it’s not too frequent. Neither do your workouts need to vary radically   from one to the next to achieve radical results. Indeed, the best way to   achieve big gains is to make small changes to your fitness plan when   you begin to notice diminishing returns—you’ve been curling the same   amount for a couple of weeks, for example, or your progress on the bench   has come to a screeching halt. Even then, the best solution isn’t   necessarily to switch up the exercises that you’re doing.


    “Instead, follow the same strategy used by many elite athletes,” says   Hartman. “Rather than change the exercise, change how you do it.”   Slight alterations in tempo, load, sets, reps, or rest periods are often   all it takes to stimulate new muscle growth. Here are three rut-busting   strategies to get you started. You can apply them all to your existing   program without changing a single exercise—or spending a single dime.


    1) Alternate the Order Sometimes breaking through a   fitness plateau is as simple as changing the sequence of your exercises.   Most guys run through their workouts doing one exercise at a time,   which is fine if you have time to kill and enjoy the slow-and-steady   approach to muscle-building. If you want to maximize your gains,   however, do supersets—two exercises performed back to back without rest.   Pair noncompeting muscle groups, such as your deltoids and glutes, so   that one muscle group can recover while the other works. Combining a   chest press with a row, or a shoulder press with a deadlift, for   example, would work perfectly. Such multitasking will not only save you   time, but also help you build more muscle and burn more fat by   increasing the intensity of your workout.


    2) Change the Tempo Instead of raising and lowering   the weight in one continuous motion, try pausing for a second about   halfway up, and then again about halfway down. Another strategy: Use a   tempo of 4 seconds up, and 4 down for eight weight-lifting sessions, and   then adopt a 2-seconds-up, 2-seconds-down tempo for your next eight.   Studies show that tweaking the parameters of an exercise is more   important than varying the exercises themselves.


    3) Vary the Volume Instead of always doing 3 sets of   8 to 10 reps, try reducing the weight and shoot for 4 sets of 15 reps.   Alternatively, you might skip rep counts entirely, and simply focus on   doing as many as you can in 60 seconds. A recent study in the Journal of   Strength and Conditioning Research found that men who regularly varied   their rep counts and trained different muscle groups increased their   bench strength by 28 percent and their leg press strength by 43 percent.
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 08:29:24 PM »
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  • my mom and dad are doign it and seem to like it

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 10:07:01 PM »
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  • i have a client who is really into it. he says a bunch of his buddies have dropped tons of weight.

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 08:44:34 AM »
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  • It does appear that people with weight to lose have the most benefit   from this, from what the article says. But anything to vary things up   can't be a bad thing - and I'm not really interested in repetitive   programs designed to turn me into a moose.
     
      I really dont have much weight to lose, but I may give this a try   anyway.
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 09:45:35 AM »
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  • Talk to Austin of Austin Surfboards in VA Beach.  He had plenty of weight to lose (no offense Austin) and is down 70lbs.  He is getting married this weekend so might be busy, but he swears by it.
     
    I hope to start it as soon as I find free time.  It can't hurt and you can do it at home.
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 11:26:10 AM »
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  • a bunch of the guys in my department are following it...the IT Geeks are getting buff!
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 12:02:56 PM »
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  • a bunch of the guys in my department are following it...the IT Geeks are getting buff!


    OK, that settles it. If the IT guys can get buff, this must really work!!


     ;D
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 12:14:21 PM »
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  • Talk to Austin of Austin Surfboards in VA Beach.  He had plenty of weight to lose (no offense Austin) and is down 70lbs.  He is getting married this weekend so might be busy, but he swears by it.
     
    I hope to start it as soon as I find free time.  It can't hurt and you can do it at home.

    I'm too distracted to do stuff at home...and I'm too lazy to go to the gym consistently. I'm screwed.

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 06:20:43 PM »
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  • Hell yea it does. I did it a couple yearss ago cause I was getting fat. I went from 175 down to 150ish after 45 days. I kinda fell off after that to 3 days then 2 by the last 2 weeks. I always wonder what could've been if I actually did the full 90 but i dropped enough weight and thats all I cared about. I always say ill get back on it but you gotta be really committed.

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 08:52:16 AM »
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  • i mean...exercise works  ;D

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 12:55:32 PM »
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  • haha...yeah anything that gets you to sweat that much is gonna make you drop the weight. you'll be drenched and sore after - if you're doing it right  ;)

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 10:50:19 PM »
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  • I found an online review of this thing - the guy basically says that it doesn't really do what they say it will.  If you look at the before and after pics they use, what you notice is that their body types are already there - they just lose the fat and tone the muscles, which you can do any number of ways without spending money on someone's 'system'.  All the "Muscle Confusion" stuff is just hype.  All according to the review I read, not my actual experience, mind you.  He says the "muscle confusion" would only really work at an elite level of work that none of us are ever going to do.  But if it gets you to exercise and you enjoy it, that alone will help you get results.  EAT LESS.  EAT BETTER.  MOVE MORE.  That's the answer.  There doesn't seem to be another.

    I was thinking about getting the P90X till I read that review and it made sense to me.  Saved me some money.  Surf, lift weights a little bit, run some, do some yoga, drink less and don't eat crap.
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 10:17:27 AM »
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  • I found an online review of this thing - the guy basically says that it doesn't really do what they say it will.  If you look at the before and after pics they use, what you notice is that their body types are already there - they just lose the fat and tone the muscles, which you can do any number of ways without spending money on someone's 'system'.  All the "Muscle Confusion" stuff is just hype.  All according to the review I read, not my actual experience, mind you.  He says the "muscle confusion" would only really work at an elite level of work that none of us are ever going to do.  But if it gets you to exercise and you enjoy it, that alone will help you get results.  EAT LESS.  EAT BETTER.  MOVE MORE.  That's the answer.  There doesn't seem to be another.

    I was thinking about getting the P90X till I read that review and it made sense to me.  Saved me some money.  Surf, lift weights a little bit, run some, do some yoga, drink less and don't eat crap.
    peace,
    Greenroom


    After a bit a research, I pretty much agree with GR's assessment. What we have here is little more than forced, high intensity cross-training. Which I can do on my own. The only real benefit I see is the structure it provides - giving people motivation and incentive to continue - but if you're self motivated, it really isnt necessary.
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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 01:41:56 PM »
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  • yeah, I think most people that rave about programs like this weren't doing ANYTHING before they started so since it motivated them and of course got better results than NOTHING at all, they are excited. I've been doing a combination of cardio and strength with variations for years and OMG, I've gotten GREAT RESULTS! Try my program! Lets see I'll give it a snappy name like N3S90 and have few people who aren't doing ANYTHING do it for 3 months and eat well, then rave about it. Oh yeah my concept is called "Muscle Frustration", hey I figure if muscles can be confused they can be frustrated too, maybe Muscle Anger? Or Muscle Comprehension?
    It's no better to be safe than sorry....

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    Re: Does P90X Work?
    « Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 02:44:49 PM »
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  • My nephew who it should be disclosed played D1 hoops is a workout
    animal. He is a strong proponent of powerlifting as a base for
    enhancing athletic ability. The theory being thAt developing maximum
    strength allows an athlete to recruit strength when performing
    athletic moves. In addition he does plyos a d stretching and the
    results are phenomenal. He went from not dunking off two feet to
    slamming without a running start. He is now able to run a 40 in under
    4.8 and throw a baseball 75 yards on the fly. Not sure how it
    would translate to surfing but I want to dunk again and throw
    fastball like I did when I was 22. At the very least the deadlifts/squat benches
    will keep me ready for big waves pzychologically by being jacked up
    a bit more.
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