[occupy99%waves]

Any place to a bunch of seaweed, near a surf spot ideal, if not just for the sea vegetable would be great. Thanks.

[RayG]

If you wait til Sept/Oct for the seasonal die off, the lineups at certain spots can be choked with the stuff.

[snaggletooth]

yeah, we get a lot of it from a spot that i would have to kill you if i told you where it is... sorry. but winter time not so good for the harvesting. sept/oct is great, as RayG said, but we've gotten garbage cans full in the summer, too.

[jammy]

so while you're on this topic, i assume you (snaggle) used the seaweed for fertilizer?
i tried a seaweed tea once last summer, not sure it did much, so any tips would be appreciated. i've already gotten some seeds and will be getting garden minded in a couple of weeks (indoor starting of course)

[snaggletooth]

so while you're on this topic, i assume you (snaggle) used the seaweed for fertilizer?
i tried a seaweed tea once last summer, not sure it did much, so any tips would be appreciated. i've already gotten some seeds and will be getting garden minded in a couple of weeks (indoor starting of course)

we did - we mixed it in with new stuff we were planting and also put a bunch in the compost pile. i can't say it did or didn't do anything. we do a lot of different stuff, so i can't really isolate the effect. i think the best thing, but more expensive, is buying bumper crop. that stuff makes everything grow like crazy without a doubt
 
i started a few seeds indoors last year and was super stoked with how they started, but i didn't do a good job of getting them ready to go outdoors, so most of them ended up dying. i did better just waiting and planting straight into the ground. do you ease the plants into outdoor life over time?

[onefinookas]

I was just talking to my mom yesterday about the garden and gardening in general.  You want to start your seedling 6-8 weeks before you want to get the plants in the ground.  With tomatos, peppers and cucumbers they are more of the tropical variety they get planted around here the end of may the start of June depending on the weather.  Last year we had really good luck with an early spring crop of Snow and Sugar peas, radishes, carrots, and several lettuces, all of which we started outdoors from seed, spinach and broccoli were a disaster.  One thing I learned last year is its really important to properly space your crops out and keep them in uniform rows, this requires you to constantly thin out your crops for better growth.Seaweed is a great fertilizer and worm food with tomato plants you can just throw a whole bunch at the bottom of the whole or pot if your working with planters.  And like Snaggle said the Bumper Crop is really good stuff, you can also make your own soil with peet, compost, manures, mulch and vermiculite but its a giant pain in the butt unless you have access to a rototiller and a place to mix the soil.

[occupy99%waves]

Thanks, yes different time of the year much better, may ask for that spot later though, thanks.

[Uncle Buck]

My wife, kids and I are going to start our "Square Foot Garden" in a couple of weeks. Since we live on the West End of LB, we have no yard or grass to speak of, we are just going to try raised beds on in the back yard, which is actually concrete. We got a book on it for Christmas and seems like a good way to get some fresh vegs throughout the spring, summer, fall. I did not realize we could use seaweed as fertilizer. As we know, at certian times of the year, certain beaches are like swimming in salad. So much seaweed.
 
Do you guys see real benefits from starting the plants indoors? What plants/veggies do you start with? We are going to start small this year and see how it works out. I really want to start composting and maybe invest in a rail barrel. There is alot of good info online. Almost too much.
 
I will be interested to hear what you guys do.
 
-UB

[onefinookas]

My wife, kids and I are going to start our "Square Foot Garden" in a couple of weeks. Since we live on the West End of LB, we have no yard or grass to speak of, we are just going to try raised beds on in the back yard, which is actually concrete. We got a book on it for Christmas and seems like a good way to get some fresh vegs throughout the spring, summer, fall. I did not realize we could use seaweed as fertilizer. As we know, at certian times of the year, certain beaches are like swimming in salad. So much seaweed.
 
Do you guys see real benefits from starting the plants indoors? What plants/veggies do you start with? We are going to start small this year and see how it works out. I really want to start composting and maybe invest in a rail barrel. There is alot of good info online. Almost too much.
 
I will be interested to hear what you guys do.
 
-UB

this is snaggle. we live in the west end of LB, and have built a kick ass garden around our house -typical west end size lot. super easy. we have a huge flower box in the front and along the south facing side of our house grew peas, carrots, lettuce, carrots, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, and radishes and cucumbers. and i have an herb garden out front, too. the rosemary is still kicking, giving me lots of flavors for all my sauces, breads, etc. into the winter

[onefinookas]

you can see how our garden progressed here:
http://www.nynjsurf.com/forum/stories-of-stoke-the-aloha-room/flower-planter-stoke-t20477.0.html

[ya_bloody_wanka]

not srue when my boss starts getting his composting tea goin but i know theres some seaweed in there along wiht alot of other stuff that he throws in his 'special tea compost'. def helps and they have had alot of success with it. he really knows what hes doin, he takes a look at it everyday in a microscope to make sure its doin what it should adn keeps a close eye on it. def worth takin a look at to any of you green thumbs

[Uncle Buck]

Looks very nice Snaggle.
 
From what we have read, the key seems to be to stagger the planting so you do not end up with a ton of one type of veggie and nothing else. We definately what to have an herb garden too. I don't want to grow stuff that we will not eat. So we will start with tomatoes, lettuce, peppers and the herbs.
 
Just one more reason I can't wait until Spring.
 
-UB

[snaggletooth]

yeah - and succession planting for lettuces and other things too. we don't have the timing down yet, but it was our first year trying. i get so excited when we can finally start doing stuff in the garden. i planted a bunch of bulbs this year - it'll be interesting to see if/where those come up because i don't remember exactly where i put them. last year we had some mystery bulbs come up in some of the containers. i didn't remember planting them, but i guess i did.
gardening rules

[jammy]

i've only been gardening for a few summers but i do see the benefit of starting certain things inside. some veggies and flowers, for example, take so long to grow that if you don't start them inside they won't be ready until right before the first frost...
last summer kinda threw a wrench in my experimenting, as the rain really effed everything up.
this year i will be starting certain flowers inside, especially perennials i am starting from seed. we don't get enough sun to keep slaving over tomatos and other sun hungry plants, so i'm giving up on that. i need to get fluorescent lights though, we don't have enough natural light in our house.

snaggle, if you start indoors and then move the plants outside, you gotta ease them into it. i'm not as cautious as the gardening guides say, but i do take precautions, like putting seedlings in mini greenhouses. that protects them from the wind and also keeps the temps up. i bring the mini greenhouses in at night (they were from ikea, pieces of shite fyi, they fall apart) and put them out in the morning. i start propping the lids open as the weather warms

[snaggletooth]

i've only been gardening for a few summers but i do see the benefit of starting certain things inside. some veggies and flowers, for example, take so long to grow that if you don't start them inside they won't be ready until right before the first frost...
last summer kinda threw a wrench in my experimenting, as the rain really effed everything up.
this year i will be starting certain flowers inside, especially perennials i am starting from seed. we don't get enough sun to keep slaving over tomatos and other sun hungry plants, so i'm giving up on that. i need to get fluorescent lights though, we don't have enough natural light in our house.

snaggle, if you start indoors and then move the plants outside, you gotta ease them into it. i'm not as cautious as the gardening guides say, but i do take precautions, like putting seedlings in mini greenhouses. that protects them from the wind and also keeps the temps up. i bring the mini greenhouses in at night (they were from ikea, pieces of shite fyi, they fall apart) and put them out in the morning. i start propping the lids open as the weather warms

i'll try the mini-greenhouse thing. my seedlings started so well, but i might have put them outside too abruptly. what have you had success with? i really wanted moonflowers, but those were the ones that didn't make it. we are VERY short on space, so i can only have maybe 1 mini-greenhouse worth, and then outdoor space is also extremely tight.