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« on: May 05, 2008, 07:30:55 PM » |
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I'm trying to get used to my shorter board...it's a 5'10" fish shaped quad with the wide part about 1/3 down from the nose.
My problem is that when I turn I tend to catch the rail. For example, today I went left (backside) and tried to turn back up the wave after the drop. However the heelside rail dug into the wave, and I lost control. I don't seem to have this problem on my usual 7'8" funshape thruster.
Any tips on what I can do to correct this? Am I putting too much weight on the front foot? Any tips to keep in mind for my next session?
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 08:09:02 PM » |
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ususally i like to get a quick pump off the bottom turn before i set my line cause if you dig a rail its a lot easier to drive through it with more speed
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EastEndWahine
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 08:45:56 PM » |
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ususally i like to get a quick pump off the bottom turn before i set my line cause if you dig a rail its a lot easier to drive through it with more speed
Maybe it's a speed problem. It just seems that it has to do with the shape of the board, and the wider front is getting in the way...feels like i'm doing something wrong. I admit I haven't ridden it very much yet, maybe I just need more time on it. |
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The Lone Surfer
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 08:51:52 PM » |
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ususally i like to get a quick pump off the bottom turn before i set my line cause if you dig a rail its a lot easier to drive through it with more speed
Maybe it's a speed problem. It just seems that it has to do with the shape of the board, and the wider front is getting in the way...feels like i'm doing something wrong. I admit I haven't ridden it very much yet, maybe I just need more time on it. A wide nose can get in the way but usually on steep waves. It's possible you may not have enough speed. that large funshape is giving you some speed by virtue of it's float. on your small fishy board you are going to have to generate your own. also, any movement on this new board is going to seem amplified compared to the bigger board that is harder to turn. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 09:45:04 PM » |
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its also going to take some adjustments to get used to riding a smaller board...once you get used the speed of quads then everything else will follow. like i said most of the times i've dug my rail is cause ive tried to throw a turn and just havent had enough speed
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 10:28:43 PM » |
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keep your knees bent, stay low until it gets going...especially backside on a fish
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 07:20:34 AM » |
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funny. i do the same thing on my fish from time to time (mine is a 5'5" twin keel, retro shape) but usually only when going frontside. my theory is that i'm attempting to turn too quickly after my pop-up. going backside it's harder to see where i'm going at first so i think i'm letting the bottom turn draw out a bit more (and pick up speed as a lot of these guys are saying.) going frontside i immediately see the wave and sometimes jump the gun on that first turn, instead of riding it out a little longer. unfortunately being regular in NY i don't surf frontside as often as i'd like, so i haven't really worked it out enough. also i rode that fish a lot through the summer, but hadn't touched it in four or five months. i rode it recently for the first time a few weeks ago and i did the same thing you're doing several times.
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EastEndWahine
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2008, 10:50:17 AM » |
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Yeah I haven't had the chance to go frontside too many times, although the one good wave I remember going frontside was a faster drop --no problems on that one. The waves I've ridden it on haven't been all that great, so def could be a speed issue.
When you turn a fish shape are you supposed to distribute your weight differently? I remember reading somewhere that riding a retro fish required a more rail to rail type surf style. I know my board isn't exactly a retro fish but I'm wondering if the same thing applies.
And yeah, the board is definitely a different feeling from the funshape. Everything happens much faster
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 11:51:53 PM » |
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more speed definitely helps. maybe bigger board with more float. i found i was digging rails bigtime in the winter until i woke up and got a bigger board that could handle the increased wetsuit weight.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 10:29:34 AM » |
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I think the username has a point since I dig rails when I try to head up the face too soon after takeoff. Like you, I do this backside more often.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 10:54:40 AM » |
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I think the username has a point since I dig rails when I try to head up the face too soon after takeoff. Like you, I do this backside more often.
Same here, and drives me farking nuts when I do it - for me I think it's a matter of being overanxious sometimes, I'm trying to take something the wave hasn't given me yet. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2008, 08:34:19 AM » |
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I think the username has a point since I dig rails when I try to head up the face too soon after takeoff. Like you, I do this backside more often.
Same here, and drives me farking nuts when I do it - for me I think it's a matter of being overanxious sometimes, I'm trying to take something the wave hasn't given me yet. Yeah you know I think this might explain it too...I was definitely trying to do a bit too much on a wave that just didn't have enough speed or face. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2008, 09:11:06 AM » |
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... I'm trying to take something the wave hasn't given me yet. that's quite a nice way of putting that. it really is about what the wave gives, or doesn't... |
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 09:23:03 AM » |
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... I'm trying to take something the wave hasn't given me yet. that's quite a nice way of putting that. it really is about what the wave gives, or doesn't... Except when you see guys ripping gutless shin high waves, so apparently it can be done, but it may not be for us mortals. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2008, 09:25:11 AM » |
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... I'm trying to take something the wave hasn't given me yet. that's quite a nice way of putting that. it really is about what the wave gives, or doesn't... Except when you see guys ripping gutless shin high waves, so apparently it can be done, but it may not be for us mortals. interesting. i read that much more philosophically. guys who can rip gutless surf just make more out of what's given. |
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